Anyone ever compare Deluend to Russian KBG


I've read KBG are pretty good, and someone...somewhere... posted on a forum "the best for crossovers", however Deluend weren't mentioned.

Has anyone tried Deluend and also tried Russian KBG?

What is your opinion?

PS
At a latter date I may be able to share my opinion on Ampohm copper, Mundorf SIO and KBG in coupling duties. And Deluend cast in coupling in a different position vs SSG's and two other Teflons, copper and tin, and a few pio's...
scutterflux

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I've read someone say the Duelund Cast is dead sounding, and lacks dynamics...???

I've read Teflon is better than duelund, tin or copper v-cap...???

I've read KBG beats out teflon rel-cap (never heard how it compared to v-cap)

Both Duelund and KBG are PIO, Copper (so they say about the KBG), both are very large for thier size, both have good bass for pio, are fast for pio, have great detail for a pio, and are smooth and natural with good timbre.

Maybe KBG is "all that" but a $5 "all that" doesn't compare to $500 "all that".

I've also read "Duelund is king" and KBG can benifit from SSG bypass.

Enough reading I suppose.
I read it either on audiogon (probably in the Mundorf SIO thread) or in Jimmy's comments section (where he was compareing Duelund). It was suggested that some people who aren't use to such a well damped or antiresonant cap might think these where a little flat as the response to someone who didn't like them, and called them "dead" sounding.
Anyway, The Duelund Cast are on there way, I have changed plans, I will be comparing them to Ampohm copper PIO, Mundorf SIO,and the KBG I'm so interested in (with and without SSG bypass). This will be in coupling duties, not in the crossover. For now I am building a KBG based crossover with Duelund resistors. If it's not a marked improvement and I can become familiar with the other capacitors mentioned and their sonic signatures then I might be willing to upgrade the crossover in the future. For the Tekton Lore speakers the Mundorf SIO are recomended, and I can definatly see how their would be a synergistic effect. However I'll try the cheaper route first, and try to use my own experience to decide the route for my tastes.
Another league.... yes, no comparison. Also all the reviews of ampohm sounding like mundorf that I've read, not even close totaly different capacitors in my experience..

So

Duelund, hardly detectable, it seems to me I'm listening to the other components more than the Duelund. It just fits, unfourtunatly because I hear the other components more now, I feel like I can hardly describe the Duelund. But.. it seems like things are put where they're supposed to be and they relatively remain put for the performance, Very natural harmonics present, Natural befitting Soundstage, dynamics like a mid row performance, excellent imaging and microdynamics. I have v-caps cutf right before them and some of the things I want to say about Duelund I think are because of the v-caps like a detectable sparkle or sheen, nice big even defining bass. Anyway they just fit! They give you a real performance!

Mundorf, smooth edges ie; liquid, but very dynamic seems like missing lower mids/upper bass somewhere, but plenty of bass, everything is in it's own space and comes out of black background and deep soundstage to the forefront of a textured bubble of sound with a musical and mid detailed image that's smooth. Also extended out both ends, trebles become louder but not pushier or forward. These are magical not real, but still a pleasure. Probally a Pink Floyd type cap.

Ampohm, more natural harmonics but flat dynamics. better balanced than mundorf, better bass but not more, and although the dynamics are less they're a quicker cap, for a more accurate timbre.

KBG, Natural enough sounding harmonic mids, but compressed mids, airy but unstable highs, too washed in the highs. Nice enough bass, I've heard allot worse.