Anyone been in contact with Jade Audio recently?



Just wondering if anyone's been in touch with JD from Jade Audio recently? I got a pair of Vermeil Gold interconnects from him a while back, and while I think they are incredible, I wanted to discuss replacing their Eichmann Copper Bullets with Furutech Gold plugs... I also want to buy another interconnect for a center channel! I tried emailing him a couple times, but didn't get a response. And I just called the phone number on his website, which actually turned out to be his home phone... (I didn't want to bother his family by leaving a message on the answering machine!) I know he's been battling a serious heart ailment, so I truly hope he's okay! If anyone can give me tips on getting in touch with him, I'd appreciate it!

Tomer
electro77

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Hey John,

Thanks for the info! I'll give him a call once the holiday season is over. Now if I could only save up some $$$ to upgrade to the Hybrids... :-)

Tomer
Hey John,

I've got the Vermeil with Eichmann Copper Bullets and Bybee filters, and they simply sound incredible in my system... I don't have too much experience with high end interconnects, though I did pick up a pair of Gabriel Gold Revelations and the Vermeils blew them away (in my system, with my ears, and my music of course!) I am running an all digital system, so the added richness of the Hybrid sounds appealing, but since I also eventually need to get a matching one for a center channel, going that route is likely too expensive for me. I guess I'd also like to try a pair of Synergistic Tesla Accelerators, but again, anything beyond that is also getting a bit out of my price range. I do think that JD mentioned that the Vermeils can be made to sound a little richer with the Furutech gold plugs, which is why I was considering sending them back for an upgrade!

Tomer
Wow... I left this thread for dead, only to come back a few weeks later and find it alive and kicking!

To answer Bobf's question the GG Revelations I tried ended up with about 200 hours on them. Apparently that isn't enough time, because according to Steve Brunelle they need 300 hours to completely settle. While that may be true, I have a hard time believing that cables can undergo wholesale changes in character between 200 and 300 hours! In my (perhaps limited) experience, I've had pretty good idea what a cable is gonna sound like after a few days... After that, the rest of the break in tends to manifest as refinement in sound, like a smoothing out of the midrange or a sweetening of the treble.

My experience with GG Revelations was that they sounded very "dense", compared to the Jade Vermeils, both in terms of the soundstage as well as temporally. I felt like sounds that were previously spread out nicely between the speakers all fell towards the center of the soundstage. I particularly noticed this with the bass. Also, like Jafox has described, I lost a certain amount of shimmer and the sense that sounds decay into a black background. But main reason I removed the Revelations before 300 hours was that for some reason they accentuated some treble hash that I had never experienced before in my system. Now that may have gone away with more break in time, but I couldn't stand the thought of having to listen to my system like that for another week! So I put the Vermeils back in for some respite, and I never felt like giving the Revelations another try. Perhaps I like the treble through my Vermeils more because they have Bybee filters in them?

That being said, just because the Revelations didn't work out for me, they have so much positive feedback and Steve Brunelle is such a great guy to do business with, I have no reservations in recommending that people give the Gabriel Golds a shot in their systems. I would just keep an open mind and try other interconnects as well!

As an aside, I don't understand why all these manufacturers who claim these exceedingly long break in requirements don't break in the cables themselves with a cable cooker before shipping! I know that the dielectric still needs to settle after the cables are moved around, but requiring a customer to put 2 straight weeks on a cable before listening critically is a bit much.

On a separate note: Mattheus, I have the Vermeil Digital cable with Furutech Rhodium plugs, and I'm very pleased with it! It replaced a Stereovox XV2, and I had no qualms selling the XV2 as soon as I placed the Vermeil Digital in my system. The Vermeil retained all the detail of the XV2, but the treble was smoothed out considerably. I didn't really do an A/B test between them because I just preferred the Vermeil! If you end up getting one, I'd be interested to hear what you think about it.

And another note: A fellow Audiogoner graciously let me borrow a pair of Jade Audio Pure Gold interconnects for comparison with my Vermeil + Bybees. And I just won an auction for a pair of KCI Silkworms... Once the Silkworms arrive, I'll post a comparison between these three interconnects!

Tomer
No disdain at all coming from me! :-) Honestly, I don't understand why people get so worked up over whether everyone else likes the same interconnects as they do. This is supposed to be fun, guys! I've learned a lot about this hobby and discovered some cool cables/gear through reading these forums. Everyone has differences in tastes and experiences, and we all gain by sharing these with each other. (I feel like a preschool teacher right now! lol)

As for the treble hash I was hearing, I know that wasn't caused by the GG Revelations. My system is far from perfect at the moment, and getting it there feels like a never ending process! I have been trying to build an all digital system, but recently, I've felt like I've been gaining resolution at the expense of musicality. That's why I've been looking at gold interconnects. For some reason the Revelations simply made a bad system attribute more clear than I was hearing before. Actually, I've been thinking of adding some tubes to the mix, but that's probably fodder for another thread!

Tomer