Any integrated's phono that can compete with $2.5k - $3k outboard one ?
Not from my experiences, and I have owned a VAC 160iSE.
I would call the phono stage decent at best.
The inboard on the VAC was easily beaten by a Allnic H1201 outboard.
Any integrated's phono that can compete with $2.5k - $3k outboard one ?
MM and MC, though mostly interested in MM. I am aware of Gryphon. Not interested in Accuphase or Luxman. Tube or solid state or hybrid, no difference if it sounds right to me. Should be powerful enough, at least 60 watts tube or 100 watts solid state.