Any good video sites out there?


So, my post about the clickbait nature of some youtube video sites was removed.

I was not trolling. I was not baiting.

Let's think about this for a moment. This is a hobby that pays attention to reviews. They drive sales, conversations, and how we perceive audio itself. 

Therefore, it's relevant to an audio hobbyist site to discuss the kinds of reviews out there. A good, informative review can guide members toward new ways of evaluating audio and help them make more informed decisions. On the other hand, review sites which are inaccurate or even just hyperbolic in their reviews or in their titles also have an impact on how seriously we can take that site. In the case of YouTube, some members here think that it is YouTube itself that is at fault. 

So, this is a valid topic for an audio forum. I went to a site -- which shall remain nameless because critique is not allowed, I guess -- which is consistently saying that the latest review is the "best ever" or "the most ultimate XYZ ever" etc. This is the kind of hyperbole which, I am arguing, has a negative effect on other, less manic sites -- which I will not name, either -- the ones not trying to work the algorithms to garner clicks.

The post I made was a claim with evidence -- evidence supporting the claim that there was a hyperbolic quality to the site. That's all I did.

And then my post was taken down.

Let's analyze what has just happened.

Violating post policies means posting "prohibited content."
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You will not submit content that is copyrighted or subject to third party proprietary rights, including privacy, publicity, trade secret, etc., unless you are the owner of such rights or have the appropriate permission from their rightful owner to specifically submit such content.
You will not post information that is malicious, false or inaccurate.
You will not post content that is sexually expicit.
You will not post content that is abusive or defames another member of The Service.

Those of you who read my post will realize that I did none of these things. What I did was call attention to a youtube site that -- I am claiming, with evidence -- tends toward hyperbole in their titles.

If this post gets taken down, then I think only one conclusion can be drawn about what has happened to "moderation" here.

hilde45

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@hilde45

The post I made was a claim with evidence -- evidence supporting the claim that there was a hyperbolic quality to the site. That’s all I did.

And then my post was taken down.

This is a standard procedure where double standards exist. It happens all the time. Fact checkers often use intellectual acrobatics with the language to disqualify a story. Happens all the time. this time your ox got gored. Ox’s get gored every day. But it really hits home when its your ox. That’s the way it is with most people. It’s not that they haven’t seen other’s oxen gored. its that they didn’t feel any pain or not enough to care. But don’t worry. truth is a stubborn thing and has a way of emerging again, kinda like the Delaware Laptop from Hell owned by the child of a prominent politician. It too was taken down when it was first posted by the NY Post

@steakster

one Georgia lawmaker likening the mobs overwhelming Capitol Police and vandalizing Capitol offices to a “normal tourist visit.”

Yes I would IF he said that. Therein is the question. Did he say it? And should we believe a media which says that the city riots in the summer of 2020 were "peaceful" even though there were deaths and $1 Billion worth of damage and theft. One even reported a peaceful march with a raging fire in the background. Can't make this stuff up.

@hilde45 

All I would say about this is that I was not bashing a member, but rather raising a critique of this channel's tendency to be hyperbolic -- and I gave the evidence.

Many do not understand nuance.They equate all actions as one in the same. Kinda like the man who happens to sees a couple making love and calls 911 to report a rape. It should not be this way. But its a part of the divide and conquer strategy which has been taking place in our society for many years, IMO

@steakster 

You have exemplified the very thing I pointed out to @hilde45 Seeing someone else's ox being gored is all fun & games til its your ox which gets gored. I hope you will soon understand that when an ox is purposely gored especially for nefarious reasons, it is an offense to all of us...or it should be

@hilde45

You will get no disagreement from me. I agree with you. I also agree that a business has a right to run their business as they believe is right. IOW, free speech does not apply to a business.

I was not trying to make light of your feeling offended. But I was trying to point out that this happens daily in our world where free speech is supposed to exist. It makes mo difference if it is "a topic worthy of debate". The powers that be have set certain things off limits. One group of people get their ox gored on a daily basis. The other has their ox protected. Take the Laptop,for example.  One side says it first and are mocked, ridiculed and silenced. 1 1/2 yrs later the side of the powers that be,  can say it when THEY deem it necessary. And  everything is fine. One sides ox is dead...the other sides ox lives and flourishes, even though it did the same thing.

THIS is an example of the double standard I am spoke of

Learning how to listen is the hobby...More than upgrading because we are unsatisfied and we dont know why...

I have held to the idea for a long time that many do not know how to listen. I have also held that in order to get good info, you must ask good questions. I ask a lot of questions due to my curiosity. Then one day I remembered how many answers I get to questions I did not ask. People often attribute to me, things I have never said. Why is that? It is either they can't hear or cannot process the question. The other way is that I had to learn to listen also. Even though I had nice systems I didn't know anything about sound stage  or the typical audiophile jargon.