Amir and Blind Testing


Let me start by saying I like watching Amir from ASR, so please let’s not get harsh or the thread will be deleted. Many times, Amir has noted that when we’re inserting a new component in our system, our brains go into (to paraphrase) “analytical mode” and we start hearing imaginary improvements. He has reiterated this many times, saying that when he switched to an expensive cable he heard improvements, but when he switched back to the cheap one, he also heard improvements because the brain switches from “music enjoyment mode” to “analytical mode.” Following this logic, which I agree with, wouldn’t blind testing, or any A/B testing be compromised because our brains are always in analytical mode and therefore feeding us inaccurate data? Seems to me you need to relax for a few hours at least and listen to a variety of music before your brain can accurately assess whether something is an actual improvement.  Perhaps A/B testing is a strawman argument, because the human brain is not a spectrum analyzer.  We are too affected by our biases to come up with any valid data.  Maybe. 

chayro

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I read ASR when I want a laugh. For someone to say you do not need to listen to a piece of equipment before buying it and also that the synergy of various components makes no difference is so funny. Seriously, the site is a joke.

The more I read about ASR the funnier that little site, its self appointed guru and his minions become.
I recently read a thread where a piece of equipment was reviewed and the "guru" claimed he did not have enough time to listen to it. Then there is a post on FB where the poster met a youtuber who claimed "synergy" does not exist. Really? Try matching speakers with an amp not suited to them. Guess who the you tuber was? Seriously this site is a joke. I wonder how little the "guru" actually really knows. Very little in my opinion.

As for generously measuring equipment, be aware that Amir asks for donations from the minions. I wonder if he also gets to keep some of the equipment that is sent to him, especially by one Chinese manufacturer in particular.

I can do without the obvious conflict of interest and ego, though. 
Yes that is difficult to do with the ASR master and his minions. Ask yourself why certain brands always score highly and get recommended.There is a distinct conflict of interest.

You need to ask two things:

1) why do some other independent measurements differ from those of ASR?

2) What happens to the dacs etc when they have been tested.
Re 1) I suspect that certain manufacturers send cherry picked equipment, and Re 2 I do not hink the dacs get returned. Amir needs to make a living after all.

 

" the manufacturer is not willing to foot the expense of well conducted, objectively fair listening tests to support their claim "

What is measured? Sinad? Look up how useful sinad is and you will see that it is not that useful.