Allnic Verito Z:Owners and those familiar


Am considering the purchase of this cartridge.My funds have been delayed and thus the purchase.
I have looked for reviews,but there are only comments.
Can anyone contrast/compare this against some known quantity.I'm hoping that the few members ,who own this will comment and relay their experiences.
Thanks in advance-Tom
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When the "next generation " Verito Z arrives in users hands (arms),will someone be willing to comment???
I understand the "original" was happiest in high-mass arms (IE:the Walker at 30+ grams).Much like the Myabi.
Is the Shilabe,the current production Myabi??
I installed my current model Verito Z over the weekend. Nobody should listen to a new cartridge until it has run in a few sides unless they enjoy suffering, but I did anyway, and suffer I did with some unusual wooly sound.
However, after about four sides, the Verito did a rapid ugly duckling to Swan transition, and although far from break in sounds very nice. With just a handful of hours it is easily competitive with my Clearaudio Harmon Mg, albeit my Harmony Mg is past 1500 hours from its Soundsmith ruby retip.
I have the Verito mounted on a Grandezza 10 inch arm with brass headshell. The recommendation is for effective mass of 16 g and above, and the Grandezza probably comes in at about 14 or 15g, but does not seem to be any kind of mismatch. The VTA is very slightly tiled upward at the tail but is very close to parallel with the cartridge body.
I am running a full Allnic preamplification chain with the Allnic head amp, H 3000 phono amp and L 5000 DHT preamp. With the Verito, I would call the sound "full flesh and blood with peyote buttons" and no, it is not just rock and roll because there is tons of internal detailing. I am entranced by some of my "heavy rotation" albums like Ginger Baker's "Middle Passage" and Miles Davis "Agharta".
I heard a demo in a dealer system over the weekend with the Air Tight PC-1(not supreme) and an ASR battery powered phono. That sound was more "audiophile x-ray" with lots of precision and detail but not much guts by comparison, but it was on a different system. The ASR/Air Tight was more of the "Jazz at the Pawnshop clinking glasses" type thing.
I am eager to hear what the Verito is going to do as it relaxes and settles in, it does not seem like it will be painful anyway.
I received my replacement "new version" yesterday. I have about 8 sides on it and agree with Cjfrbw - but I'll add "Wow"; my spare previous version is also going back for replacement. No shim and no sibilance and it seems on track to hold to the other features of the previous cartridge. In general, I'd say the main difference is a tonal balance that is tipped somewhat lower, weightier bass, more texture and (maybe as a result) even more definite layering of the images of instruments. Same oustanding dynamics and speed and deeeecaaaaaayyy. An acquaintance who is a professional jazz player was over weekend before last and heard my system for the first time (with the previous version obviously). His comment, "I've never heard such realism! That's what I want - the real sound of instruments and being able to hear what every player is doing." I thought it sounded okay, too... I don't need that sort of validation but it's nice when it happens. Will have him over again at the next chance to see if he hears a change. In the meantime, I'm pretty happy to get an upgrade for the cost of shipping. Who else does that? Please tell me if you know, as it really appeals to the el cheapo in me.

Thanks, Gersimon

I have 15+ hours and I am definitely getting some kickappoo "Wow" factor now. I feel fickle and faithless as I find my affection for my Clearaudio Harmony Mg fading.
I have the benefit of the full Allnic preamplification chain, which may offer particular synergies.
With the Verito, for the first time, I have been able to fully hear through the dense vocal and instrumental intermodulation of Oblivion Express' "Back to the Beginning". Whatever the Allnic products may offer in detail and dynamics, they never sacrifice rich tone, and the Vertio is consistent with that. I will write more as I get more hours on the cartridge.

I have been using the Verito since its release a few years ago. Now I am on the Z and still using it in an ET2, this combination really sings. The ET2 appears to suit the Z down to the ground. I have also tried the Z in pivoted arms, the sound is there but not in the same league. The ET2 combo has a perfect and seamless presentation, my daughter is a Cellist and remarked that the Z was the most natural sounding cartridge that I have used. I have three TT's and seven arms installed, a bit of overkill or obsession I am sure. my main TT has two Moerch DP6 arms and an ET2. Comparisons are easy when there are two identical arms, this setup was used to compare the two Veritos and various carts belonging to my friends. BA's Mantis beat the Allnic in terms of bass depth, Nigels PC1 was on a par as was a Koetsu urushi. However when the Z went back on the ET2 none of the others sounded as integrated from top to bottom. I think the arm is more important than realised when using the Z. For the price I think that the Z represents outstanding value. For what it is worth I run my carts balanced into sowter 8055/4 trafos and then into balanced hybrid phono amps. My system could never be described as high end but it has excellent resolution and an accurate sound, it is more studio than HiFi.