Advice on Equipment Upgrade


I need some help on what is making my system sound a little dull in the midbass snares toms ect. My system is in a 10.5 x 12 ft room open on the long end. I have Dynaudio Contour 3.0's with a REL B2 sub connected to a McIntosh MC352 solid state amp using a Prima Luna ProLogue Three Tube Preamp. My Source is now a Upgraded REGA P3/24 with a Nagaoka MP200 Cartridge MM. I'm using a Tiny Riaa Phono Input that was incuded on the Prima Luna. My Cables are Nordost SPM skr wire and a upgraded cable for the REL by Signal Cable. And 1 unbalanced 1 meter cable from Morrow audio (MA-3). SO my question is Where are the Drums ??? Do I need a Dynavetor cartridge? Is the Primaluna phono the culpret? Should I invest in a quality Phono Preamp and get a low output MC cartridge? I just want my kick back in my system Its too Warm. Note: I was listing to Digital but I really like the Vinyl sound better for the Jazz and Classic rock.I know these speakers and they can sound much better and its not my amp.Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Matt
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i MOVE A LOT AND i ALWAYS SEEM TO GET STUCK IN CRAPPY ROOMS..i HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. I dont like my system on the 2nd floor its awful ...the first floor is the way to go. Yes the room is small. I have tried smaller speakers in hear like Epos Es22. The Sound is much better with the Dynaudios. If you know about the Rel it just gives me what the dyns dont deliver in the low end.And does a great job at this.If I take it out of the system I lose a lot of low end information. I dampin this room with screens in the rear and side walls and rear wall.I like to listen at a loud level. Rock and Jazz. I have no digital source right now. I was using a Mcintosh CD player hooked Directly to the Amplifier with a Nordost XLR cable. It sounded really Fast and a lot of balls all across the range but like most digital it is way too dynamic and I'm hooked on vinyl agian so thats what im trying to improve it. I think I'm going to play with the VTA and invest in a good Phono Preamp and see what that does. I wanna thank all of you for the great advice. Every one of you had great input. Thanks.
Hey I see a lot is made of the room size. To clarify, the room is off a tiled entry way so the space is really larger. The room is small but opens up right away to a total size of 14'wide x 16' deep. Still not a great scenario I know.Also, The matter of the preamp out (2800) into the Mac Amp (unbal-20,000) is a concern.(more on that in a few days)I have a 4.0mv MM cart. I listen to Classic Rock and 50's 60's jazz. Music that is Simple sounds Awesome!Bass is deep and tight in the lower octaves(below 30hz).Very articulate and smooth ,velvet vocals,Sax,with very real sounding cymbals bells ect..BUT when I put on something with Balls like Billy Cobham -Spectrum Atlantic SD7268, it dosen't have that EDGE or driving Attack of the percussion that i have heard from this record. Do I really have to talk about Digital? Ok....I had this very system hooked up with a Mc201 and a Nordost Valkyrja Bal IC Directly to the MC352. WOW! is all I can say. The sound is Celing to the floor in dynamic range and Quick like lightning, Sure the 201 isnt the best sounding CD player.Compromise,compromise,but having control of the volume without a preamp added some real grunt into the system I had not heard while using a preamp,On Talking Heads Speaking in Tongues-Burning down the house sounds like my speakers are playing Instruments! Instead of boxes playing beautiful music.A lot of Impact and dynamics, very synergistic.Thanks to my brother I'm going to bring in a expensive McIntosh Tube Preamp with Tube Phono stage and do some listening over the weekend, I'll post again soon.


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Wow that puts it into perspective..no wonder i'm scratching my head ..I was worried that the preamp was not a good match.So any Ideas? I could sell the Primaluna but for what replacement? I dont want to spend $3000-4500 on a McIntosh. Any Ideas for Under 2,000? I want tubes and dont care about remote.I just want it to mate with the Mac amp better.
OK, Thanks to EVERYONE who posted. I am a complete numbskull. I started spinning vinyl a year ago and it has been a real learning experience trying to find used original albums. Trying to rebuild my record collection I purchased what I thought was a good copy of a favorite record..Billy Cobham Spectrum ,Atlantic records 1973 Original issue. IT WASN'T. I was fortunate to attend the Austin Record Convention last weekend.I found an original 1973 copy of this record. When I played this all the great things I remember about this album were alive and well :-) This also occurred with a favorite Spyro Gyro album Morning Dance. Everything is beautiful and full,bells,congos, just AMAZING. Also, I have used a lot of cables in my system and the Morrow Audio IC is Amazing. Try it, I think you will agree. The AB with the Prima Luna and the MC2200......Sure the MC2200 is sweet, open ,airy,detailed.But,for $3,000 less the Prima Luna is very sweet indeed.Rich,velvet,luxurious,big,wide,tight. I am loving my sound ATM. And I'm Carefully buying vinyl from now on :-)