Advice from anyone with Tangent RS4 speakers?


It's hard to find any info on these rather obscure speakers. I bought them used several years ago. They were all the rage in the early 1980s, sold in the US only briefly and went out of business. I need a amp. I'm looking for an integrated solid-state amp for $500-600 used. If anyone knows these speakers and has advice on how to match them with an amp, I'd appreciate it. I listen to a little bit of everything, but nothing with a huge dynamic range. From reading reviews, I'm considering a NAD C370, Cambridge Audio A500, Rotel RX1050, or maybe a Rega Mira or Arcam A75.
juddowenc26d
Well, I woud not be surprised if I am the only one that knows anything about these. They were made in England circa 79-81. They used drivers by Audax of France. An 8" bextrene woofer mid and the ubiquitous 1" soft dome tweeter that almost everybody was using at this time. The Bextrene driver was a nice sounding unit but was very inefficient at around 84 db and also did not handle much power, around 40 watts rms was it. So the RS4 is a very British sounding speaker, if memory serves, warm and full in the bottom and slightly rolled on top. Because it is so inefficient and very limited as to how loud it can play it is definitely not for headbangers. I would say that you need an amp with a little grunt to drive these. The NAD would probably do it. I would go with an amp that has a neutral balance rather than overtly warm simply because the RS4's are already on the warm side.
Good. That's just the sort of advice I was looking for. Thanks. I'll audition the NAD.
I guess you already bought your amp, but I can't resist sharing a few comments on these lovely old speakers.
I am listening to my RS4s as I type this. Bought them in December '78 and have never found a reason to get rid of them. No - they're not the ultimate audiophile loudspeaker, but incredibly difficult to tire of. Very warm, comforting, BBC sound. Not good for high levels (the crossovers tend to melt, leading to 1/2 hour's soldering to put everything back into the PCB) and not efficient - I have had best results driving them with something around 80-100W RMS. Currently they are playing MP3s from my PC via a 100WPC Crimson Elektrik (circa 1980) power amp. A couple of decent stands (shot-filled is good) to lift them about 18" off the floor tidies up the bottom end. Just don't drive them with anything that's woolly in the bottom end - my worst ever mistake was a Velleman valve amp - sweet at the top, but utterly suffocating in the bass. Get the amplification right and enjoy!
Just to add to this legacy thread. The RS4 were my first set of speakers, purchased in August 1978, after comparative demos agains the likes of Bose (301s!), Swallow, KEFs etc. They offered very pleasant tonal balance with subjectively a slightly recessed midrange and superlative imaging. I started off driving them with just the original A&R A60 integrated amp and ultimately ended up with a Naim 42/Hicap preamp and an Audio Research D70mk2 power amp (which by itself cost 10x what the Tangents cost). With the Audio Research they had a gripping and totally immersive sound that was near impossible to beat. I tried to upgrade them and did home demos of Gale 401, Magneplanar SMG, Linn Kans and Saras and possibly a few others too, but none of them came even close to what the RS4s were doing.

For a while I used them as a guitar speaker, plugging the guitar in to a cassette deck with the record gain set to the max turning it into a clipping fuzzbox. These waveforms and the volumes I put through them did causes some crossover thermal damage...the foam next to the power resistors was melted and scorched, but they never stopped working.

I also found the RS4s to improve enormously when the 6 inch high castor wheeled stands were replaced by some heavy duty spiked HB1 stands at 18 inches. I also rewired the innards with Naim NACA 4 speaker wire which was a modest improvement.

I sadly sold them to close friend in 1985 as I was moving continents. Had I stayed there I may well have been using them to this day. I can only imagine what they would sound like if the crossover was assembled with 2012 audio grade components.
Don't know if anyone is around from this original thread but I have a pair of Tangent RS4s whose crossovers I am currently in the midst of trying to rebuild. I used to power them in the 80s with an Adcom GFA1 amp (200 watts/channel which I understand both Bob Carver and Nelson Pass had a hand in designing back when Adcom was based in New Brunswick, NJ, my old home town). Apparently, either time or I did a fair amount of damage to those caps (probably both) and some are hard to id, particularly one that looks like a piece of pink sugar coated candy with green, white and violet stripes? I'm working on a schematic for this crossover so I can get some expert opinion on the project. But I am new to this and am learning as I go.  If there is anyone out there interested or who could lend some assistance I would be happy to share/learn.
I set out to simply replace the caps but am beginning to question the design and wonder if it could not be improved upon. For starters it seems to have a lot of caps for a two way crossover (8 in five styles), plus 2 resistors and 3 coils. Modern designs I have looked at typically have two or three caps for 2 two way crossover.

The drivers and cabinets are in good shape and I have always liked this speaker which sports a 200mm Audax bextrene cone woofer and a 19mm KEF t27 dome tweeter, housed in a nicely crafted 42.5 liter walnut veneered mdf  cabinet,  all of which has held up amazingly well over the years.
Bruce