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Advice and help understanding, choosing a Widebander / Single Full Range Driver speaker?

I'm considering a second set of speakers for my primary system.

I'm satisfied and very happy with my current primary speakers (Tekton Design SEs), so this isn't about a replacement speaker, but I have been looking for something that is different enough from my Tektons, in terms of speaker type and design, etc.

My current top choices being Sound Labs or Cube Audio. Horns, maybe.

Srajan Ebaen's review of the Bliss C a year ago was what first exposed me to Cube Audio and his more recent review of the Nenuphar is stellar. Both reviews are copied in my follow-up post below.

I've been 'somewhat' exposed to full range drivers (or nearly so, with augmentation) as I've owned Zu Audio and Vaughn Loudspeakers and have been exposed to Teresonic speakers and Voxativ drivers. Still, I'm a neophyte with regards to this speaker type (single full-range driver).

Would love to learn more about the pros and cons of owning a true wide-bander and issues, pitfalls, etc. I should consider before moving forward.

Leaving this very general and open. Let's keep budget out of this also (I don't want to complicate the discussion). 

More on my system and room and preferences in subsequent posts.

Thanks!

(BTW - I did search the forums and there is 1 wide bander thread and 6 full range driver threads. None apply directly, but I will review each to see what I can pull out that may be relevant).
david_ten

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bache
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all my speakers made around wideband drivers take a look
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/why-aren-t-more-speaker-designers-building-augmented-wideband.... if you close to NYC or NJ
you can get listening
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bache
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Yes, Skylar is the primary, but  , my opinion the full range single 
driver speaker still get disadvantage to compare all my 
speakers based on the wideband drivers. The best is Bache -002.
They work perfect with 10-20 watt amp , and get bass . midbass and highs which coudnot compare with  one driver

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bache
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@david_ten 
Hello , If you still looking for single , full range loudspeakers . and 
looking for Best, You have to choose best driver, I think the Voxative
line is the best on the market now, My Skylar get a lot of upgrade
option , and actually you can buy any    Voxative drivers
 by yourself, and ship
me to  complete loudspeakers, we apply buffle step crossover , or 
you can connect bypass , for pure crossoverless connection.
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bache
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https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/whizzer-cone-removal/post?postid=1584914#1584914  please take a look, My experience with
design loudspeakers based on widebanddrivers say ---
impossible to get good highs with whizzer cone.  The best way is not 
just understand this and  accepted or    not, Just listen i with AB comparison on the same record. What is whizzer .Is just piece of paper 
How it been compare with new technologies tweeters?  Historically
whizzer cone drivers  widely used in Pro sound starting long time ago.
in Cinema   theaters , and for some reason came up in High End.



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bache
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I mean 250-400 Hz  , The deficit sound pressure make sound thin
Only real horn get big help  . transmission line working just for lower
bass.
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bache
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The purist single driver is a dream, the have big  issues . If you ok 
without   super tweeter  , no whizzer cone. 10-12 khz is good enough.
. good without  good bass, or want to get sub, another big issues will
make sound  not good.   midbass lack, make sound thinner them need to be. i explain already in different treads,  -baffle  step https://www.trueaudio.com/st_diff1.htm, 
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