Adcom - A Good Value?? Auctions risky??


I really have 2 questions.

First, There is a lot of discussuion here and elsewhere that make Adcom sound pretty bad. I am looking for a good amp with 200+/chanel and good down to 4ohms, without breaking the bank. The old 555 may have been rough, but how about the 5500, 5800, and 5802?? The 5800 would appear to be a pretty good deal on the surface, at around $600 used. But some have raised concerns about mechanical noise and noisy fans. Has this been a significant problem for any users?? The 5500 and 5802 are current models and seem to sell about $900 and $1400 new. I have seen the 5500 at about $600 or so used. This is no less than a used 5800, which would seem to be a better value, unless noise is a common problem. It appears the 5500 and 5802 have no fans. Do they have no noise problems? If the 5802 is the best of these might it be best to wait for the next generation to come out so the 5802 will then drop to say $800?

Second question is how risky is buying an amp over audiogon or ebay classifieds? If you get a DOA or even a hummer you have little recourse but complaining. I am sure there are horror stories. Is the experience generally good, or is this just a gamble?

Thanks in advance for thoughtful reactions!!!!

Steveg
steveg

Showing 1 response by sdcampbell

As I've commented before in these pages, the audiophile community tends to disparage some of the entry level, yet high-value products, available from various manufacturers. Adcom belongs to this "Rodney Dangerfield" group -- it tends not to get much respect. However, you will find that many of the regulars who contribute to this forum have owned Adcom preamps and power amps at one time or another -- myself included.

Unlike some of the other contributors, I have also been a retail salesman for Adcom equipment. Adcom has had some QC problems in recent years, which began after they shifted their manufacturing from one of the high-quality assemblers in Taiwan to a facility in mainland China. Having said that, I'd also say that Adcom seems to have addressed most of those problems, and continues to do a a pretty decent job of continuing to design and sell solid products for fair prices.

Based on my experiences with Adcom amps, which involves a LOT of listening hours with various speakers, I'd say that a used 5500 power amp is a hell of a value. For around $650-750, there are very few amps that provide 200 wpc of clean signal, and will handle speaker loads as low as 4 ohms with aplomb.

I am less enthused about the 5802, not because it's performance is poor (it's performance is actually quite good), but because it has a lot of competition at its price point. As Sean noted above, the 5802 is a better amp than its predecessor, the 5800. It is still, however, a very large amp and it produces a lot of heat for a solid state amp. It thus requires a lot of space with good ventilation.

I have both bought and sold Adcom power amps on Audiogon and E-bay, and had good experiences in all instances except one (a dealer that slightly misrepresented the exterior condition of the amp, tho' it worked fine). If you make a point of talking -- by phone -- with the seller, you can usually get a better idea about the fairness of the deal. You should also check seller ratings, since a lot of good feedback is usually a sound indicator of the seller's honesty. Also, Audiogon has "verified members", whose addresses and credit have been verified.