ADC moving-iron cartridge has "low" output


I have two identical ADC gold-body XLM-III carts from the late 70s. I purch'd them used, as part of two turntables that were each purchased from different parts of the US. Each cart has a different model of stylus (XLM-III and QLN-2) , and styluses can be interchanged. 

The MI series from ADC should output 5.5mV, which I have not measured. However, BOTH these carts are challenged wrt output volume. Not only do I have to crank up the vol. more than 1/3 above other carts, but  the sonics are a bit "small" and not "full bodied". It might be due to weakening permanent magnetism -- these are both getting close to 50 yrs old .

The perm. magnet in ADC moving iron series is mounted in the removable stylus, just above the stylus/cantilever assemble. 

Not sure what else the low volume may be due to??? These are my my only MI carts in my collection. Anyone know more?

hollowman

Elliot, you have a point. I chose to use 3.54 cm/sec as a standard because 30 or more years ago, that was the standard stylus velocity for calculating output. But you’re correct that in the last few decades, 5cm/sec has become standard. I chose the older standard because I reasoned that MM cartridges of the same vintage as the ADC would have been rated using that standard. This is a subject about which not much has been written. I agree that yogi’s data, that the output was 1.1mV or thereabouts is probably the sensitivity spec, not corrected for the stylu velocity standard, whether that should be 3.54 or 5cm/sec. If so, the units would be mV/cm/sec.

you buy and replace the stylus yourself

lp elliptical for xlm mkiii

https://www.lpgear.com/product/ADCSXLMIII.html

elliptical for qln-ii

https://www.lpgear.com/product/ADCSQLNMKII.html

 

jico or someone may have a micro linear profile that fits the adc bo

Thanks! Those are very low $$ for supposedly Made-in-Japan products. I assume other here on Audiogon have dealt with LPgear here (???)  so no issues with fakes or new-old-stock (suspensions do rot with age).

 

The other resource,  like https://www.adelcom.net/ADCCart1.html , are significantly pricier. Not sure about that site!

I would not say “fake” but once or twice they’ve sold styli they described as “original” which implied OEM, when in fact what they were selling was a reproduction of OEM. No problem with functionality however.

The ADC armature (see fig.) is "special" . I assume they overproduced these decades ago (along with mounted stylus) . So maybe that's what the LPgear has stocked. 

About suspension -- esp. after decades of aging -- I think it is NON-use that causes them to stiffen (at least in my experience). 

About high $$ replacements ... check out the this page ... 

https://www.adelcom.net/ADC%20Stylus.html

I have no idea how re-manufs handle the SUSPENSION BLOCK issue!!