Accuphase Integrated Amp - E600 or E470


I am building a second system around Harbeth or ATC speaker and decided on Accuphase for integrated amp. Between the Accuphase E600 (class A 30 watts) and E470 (class A/B 180 watts) integrated amps I am hoping someone here has compared. I heard the E470 driving ATC speakers and liked it but have no chance to audition an E600. If the E600 sonics is only mildly superior to the E470 I would rather get the latter to avoid class A heat plus it is significantly less $$. I am in Jakarta Indonesia where it is always hot and I prefer not have a heater in the small 1BR apartment I live. But if the sonics gap is huge enough I am prepared to step up. Music I listen is varied - pop, jazz, light rock, R&B and occasionally classical orchestra.
noelpastor

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Interesting question noelpastor.  I am wondering the same thing.  The E600 will definitely sound sweeter due to the Class A configuration.  I have been toying with the idea of looking in to an E470 due to the increased output over my Luxman L-590AX (which is a direct competitor of the E600).  From what I have been told by others who have owned both the E600 and E470, there is a slight difference in sound quality in favor of the E600 with the major difference being more power and less heat with the E470.

There is no getting away from heat generation with Class A amps and while Accuphase and Luxman generate less heat than some other Class A amps, the heat is still there.  In a one bedroom apartment in Jakarta, that could provide for some "toasty" listening if the ambient temperatures are already hot. 
You are correct, the Luxman is a Class A amp with 30 Watt output. I will soon see if its a sideways move.  I just ordered an E-470 to see if they make an appreciable difference with my B&W 803 speakers.
Just a quick update.  I received the E-470 today.  Right out of the box, it sounds as good as the Luxman L-590AX. The Accuphase has slightly more authority on bass and it seems to feed the B&W 803s as much as they need. The difference has been subtle thus far. 

More details to come later as things settle in but there is at least no perceived loss in the warmth of the Class A sound that I love. 

I am extremely pleased with the E470.  We used the amp to power the first North American unveiling of the Paradigm Persona 9H last month.  The Rep from Paradigm was floored with how good the amp made the speakers sound compared to two other amps they had been using.

The E470 is a keeper.
Well, I did it again.   Just pulled the trigger on an E-600.  It should be here next week.   I  am looking forward to getting back into the Class A "groove"!
arturgoniak - US List Price is $16,000.  Expect to get a discount from dealers though. 
jafant - I now have an Esoteric K-01X with Tellurium Q Black Diamond XLR cables.
Jafant - there really isn't any other brand I have tried that has come close to TQ.
E-470 is dead quiet and has a very good headphone stage.

It does very well at low volume.
Donjr, it was quite a journey but well worth it.  It's a great integrated amp.  I love it!
smoffatt,

The Accuphase phono card is quite good.  I suspect that your separate phono stage would sound better though.