Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD


Hi All.

Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.

I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.

Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?

All opinions welcome.

And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.

Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
mattnshilp

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Matt,

I've been following this thread since the beginning. Let me just say "thank you" for your very well written comments and thoughtful insights. Though you may not be able to please everyone participating in this thread, you are very well on your way to an amazing system that will speak to all your needs. Bravo

So, when I read the several posts mentioning Wells Audio, I just had to wade in.

Before I talk about Wells, I thought since I don’t post a lot that it’d be helpful for you to understand my particular tastes in audio. I can say that I really like what Steve N does with his gear. The last two years at Newport were very very good, one of the best rooms at the show, especially 2014 with Vapor Audio. I favor sound as Steve does; very open, transparent, and with all extreme’s intact. Steve’s gear does all ranges great but the treble area and cymbals in particular are so beautiful. Really, the best I’ve heard. I also like MBL, D’Agostino, McIntosh, and other solid state gear. I do not recall what room it was, but there were some of the smaller Wilson Sabrina’s playing with D’Agostino mono’s and their top preamp. That room was probably my favorite this year; the amps had vice-like control and with I believe a M9 DAC, it was really very nice; so easy to listen to with the entire frequency range beautifully demonstrated. So, with that, now you know my audio perspective.

I first remember hearing Wells Audio at Newport 2014 and then heard it again at CanJam 2015. I heard both of Jeff’s head phone amps at CanJam. But the Headtrip was just amazing. This is basically an Inamorata in a smaller case according to Jeff. The setup had the Lampi Model 4 Gen 5 dac with Dana Cables/ACT power cables and a Mac Mini front end. The headphones were HIFIMAN HE 560s. This system was heaven. I listened to headphones at that show that cost two or three times the 560s and on some fairly costly systems too. None even came close to the Wells Audio system. Again, none were even near the same league. If I would have had $17,000 to spare, I’d have bought that setup and never looked back, it was that staggeringly good. Every time I mention it to my friend that was with me, he thinks exactly the same thing. The Wells Audio amp and the rest of the setup made the headphones just sing. I also vaguely remember the 2014 Newport show, which I think had less supporting gear but was also very good; natural, punchy, and musical.

So, I realize I just brought head phones into this thread. But I have also heard the full size Inamorata stereo amp at Newport 2015. (I don’t know if this was the SE model or not) Despite the small room the overall sound was somewhat above average. Of course, that is just my general thought. I think that the ancillary gear and setup lacked; it just didn’t have the quality of gear needed for it to shine. I did speak momentarily to Jeff and he didn’t seem amped the way he did at CanJam. I do think that if the Inamorata can sound anything like my experience with the headphones it will be an amazing amp. I hope to hear it in a venue with suitable supporting equipment. That’s my experience with Wells Audio and I do look forward to what Jeff is doing and hope to hear his gear again soon.

I meant the Bricasti M1 DAC with the Wilson/D'Agostino combo I talked about above.

Also, just heard the new Sabrina's with the new 150WPC tube AR integrated and I think it had the Bricasti DAC as well. Could easily live with that pairing too. Heard that at Sunny's in SoCal and it was amazing.

" Above all I want to cry and only some systems can acheve this." I find this comment refreshing and honest. Being moved by the music is the whole reason to listen in the first place.
Hi Steve,

Stupid question: any of your customers use this between the PS Audio Directstream DAC and the PS Memory Player transport? Good results?
@mattnshilp 

Matt,

Enjoyed the first three videos. Like Steve, I'd love for you to explain your speakers and how they work.

Note: The lighting you are using seems to add a blue hue but is also appreciated. Certainly better than no lighting at all.
@david_ten 

Actually, I took it as a joke; I saw it for what it was and didn't give it a second thought. It did not appear to be an inside joke or kidney punch - just a little fun. Matt has been the OP of decorum and civility and provided a wealth of knowledge for us all to benefit from for a number of years now. I think in the spirit of all things Dac-related, we should get this massively-popular 78-page thread back on track. 
@audioengr 

Hi Steve,

You mentioned the ODSX review. Can you point us to it? I couldn't find it doing a quick Google search and didn't see a link on your website either.

For those of you following along, Steve's DACs ARE special. I've heard them at least a few times at Newport and I still remember how amazingly clear and pristine the sound was, just beautiful. Not analytical in any way, but also not lacking in detail or air. If you get a chance, check his gear out. You will be very pleasantly astonished.
@mattnshilp

It’s a bit quite around here. I wonder what the Doc’s got up his sleeve for us?
@mattnshilp 

Been a while since we've heard from you. Hope all is well and you'll be able to update us on your journey. Be well....
Matt,

I guess you are now the Dr. Audiophile/Reviewer! Best of luck in ALL you do. 
@mattnshilp 

Will be eager to read your VPI review/write-up. Hope all is going well in your new pursuits.