a great take on big$ cables


i was talkin to a friend about cables & wire's & no matter how hard i try to tell him its not needed he wont budge because he has heard that big buck wires are the way to go,i even showed him this web page & after reading it his response was this "if they didnt work then why would they sell them" after talking for hours i gave up & gave him a demo,he heard no difference & neither did i but he still believe's.

there isnt alot of info published on wires except by manufacturer's so i thought i'd post this so every body could enjoy it.

this is a link to roger russell's web site where he gives his thought's on wire's & cable's & reports on blind testing that was done,if your not familuar with him he was a audio engineer for many years & from some of the gear i own that he designed i'd say a damm fine engineer too.

if you are of the belief that big buck cable's are not worth using you may get a chuckle but if your a firm believer then you might be bummed out,anyway's here's the link if you care to read about wire's.

{http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm}
bigjoe

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Pmotz.

i have a question for you,what are you talking about when you say " this goes against everything audiophiles strive for" isnt better sound what audiophiles strive for & how does an enginer's finding's done in blind listening test's go against anything ? its nothing more than information,use it if you like or dont its of no matter to me but i would love to know what goes against all that that is hifi.

what i find odd is you choose to fixate on useless information like stereo review & aes instead of the real information in the article which was the results of blind listening tests set up in such a way that there was no time lapse between the changing of wires not what some stupid mag had to say.

if you want to stress a point atleast come up with a response that has merit to it instead of refering to how many people buy exotic wires & cables,that's like saying that bose sells more speakers than anybody else so they cant be wrong.

when i read the page at no time did i take the the parts about stereo review or aes as a reference nor do i think they were intended as such, i think they were included to show just how fast these mag's & reviewers changed their tune, he even admited to his own company reversing its own findings on wire's & cables as to not hurt dealer sales.

to tell the truth i was hoping that someone would comment on the published results of the listening tests instead of focusing on trivial issues such as the honesty of audio mags or reviewer's,as far as i know this type of testing is the most precise way to present different cable's & wire's to test subject's without corupting the test's with visual's of wire's being changed or a prolonged break in the music.

mike.
SERUS

good info on rfi's affects on power cord's & i couldnt agree more,i know its an old peice of gear but one of my favorite peice's is the cary cad5500 cd processor which remove's rfi interference from cd playback,that single peice of gear make's a huge difference.

just to clear the record i'm not trying to convert anybody into believing anything about cable's but there is a point to everything & also an oponion & information.

anytime somebody put's out info from the other side of the cable camp its taken as a direct attack on cable owners instead of taking it as it was meant,have i heard difference's in cable's, power cord's & wire's with my own ear's,yes i have but do i think they are a upgrade,for the most part i do not.

my personal belief is that cable's & power cord's do infact work because ive heard them work but i also believe that the benifits obtained from running exotic cabeling can be matched & even beat by going in another direction like by running a (quality) preamp with tone controls as jaybo suggested above or by getting away from gear that runs in low ohmage's,serus made a fine point in his post about how shitty rfi can make things sound but there is gear made to handle that problem that can be used instead of running exotic cable's.

i would rather fix & or control weak problem area's within my system with electronic's that have resale value as oposed to running exotic cabeling & loosing 50% of my investment as soon as i buy them.

mike.