A good power conditionner with tube amps ?


I'm on the way for a good conditionner or regenerator for my system. At that time I tried 2 : Isotek (but not the Titan witch is said dedicated for amps) and PS audio PPP.
Both of them work fine for front gear but they erased dynamics of my ATM 3 tube mono amps (115 watt).

Do you think equi=tech can do a better job and maybe can eradicate ou minus my hum trouble on analog ?

Tahnk you

Barba
barbapapa

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I don't believe there's a power conditioner that won't diminish dynamics to some extent when used on amps. Not just my experience, read the threads, this has been gone over many times before. IMO, power conditioners are for everything BUT the amplifier.
Mapman, I did state all the PCs I've tried diminish dynamics to some extent. This is heard as a rounding of transients, often very subtle, the music loses just a bit of life. While it sounds smoother, I'm just a bit bored. Take the PC back out and I'm engaged.

As for why. I suspect the transformer based PCs lose through all the additional wire in the transformer windings (and capacitors on AC outlets). I suspect others lose through additional capacitors, resistors and other circuitry in AC path. All these additonal components also color the sound to some extent. I've played around quite extensively with different capacitors, they all have their own sound. My own BPT 3.5 Sig. now offers the option of V-Caps on AC outlets, I'm sure it changes the sound, something I plan on investigating very soon.

I've even found the the minimalist AC filtering of two caps in series on AC outlet to color tonality and restrict dynamics on various amps. In a perfect world there would be no need for AC conditioning, unfortunately, my AC is so dirty the plusses outweigh the minuses for my front end equipment.

Dynamic needs for front end equipment is much lower than for amps, ie. not as impacted in this regard (although I've heard some argue they hear front end components dynamically restricted by PCs) I like the BPT as it is the least colored I've tried.
Mrtennis, I've tried all the previous line of PS Audio products, Chang Lightspeed, BPT, all Shunyatas with exception of V Ray, Audience Adept, various Bybee, caps on AC outlets, may have forgotten a few.

I would say the Shunyata Hydra 4 impacted the dynamics the least. And yes, I found some conditioners colored in the way you described. The Hydra 8 was just the opposite, warm and somewhat soft focused, I suspect the FeSi.

The BPT is least colored PC I've heard in my system.

Barbapapa, I've heard good things about the Equi-tech, transformer based, same as BPT. I like the BPT products because of build quality and Plitron transformers, quite unique design in the 3.5 line. Still, in your price range the Son should be a good choice.

Mapman, yes, the better filtering power supply should benefit less from PC.
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