A cable too perfect?


I recently acquired an Audionet AMP 1 v2 that only accepts RCA single ended connections. Since all my cabling was balanced, I had to start looking for replacements for my Acoustic Zen Matrix Reference II's. Of course I could just get an RCA pair of those, as I like the sound, but I thought I would take the opportunity to check out some other options. I also thought I would start on the lower end cost-wise. I had some old Audioquest RCA's laying around and used those to start. And I bought some low cost Acoustic Zen WOW's to tide me over. And then on to Stager Silver Solids, I like these, but I don't think I love them. I also bought some Neotech cable and connectors and I am working on building a set.

But then, my dream cables showed up at a significant bargain, Acoustic Zen Absolute Copper! I was quite excited to add these to my system, and they replaced the Stager silver cables. Well, to say the difference was striking is not sufficient. The level of clarity and detail is amazing, and the soundstage is excellent. At first I thought they were kind of bright, but that is not the case, I think it is just the extreme clarity. A friend came over and he did not think they were bright either.

So, the problem, I don't find them engaging. It is possible the sound is a bit on the lean side. Everything is there, but there does not be a sum to the parts that is the music, yet I think they are absolutely accurate. It is slightly better if I turn it up, but I don't tolerate higher volumes for long, and value a system that sounds good at lower volumes. I prefer a bit of warmth, although I like to term it as a "richer" sound. 

They have only been in place for a few days, so I will give them a bit more time. I know the answer, "try something else", but curious if others have run into such stark contrasts and is this what I can expect at the higher end of the cable world?

Suggestions for alternatives that might suit my needs are welcome, if you have actually tried them, and you believe that cables make a difference.

zlone

Showing 8 responses by audphile1

I owned pretty much every AZ cable from WOW to Absolute Copper. 

The AZ Absolute Copper are detailed but warm sounding cables. They’re slightly slow sounding and I wouldn’t pair them with warm sounding equipment.

Even though I liked them I preferred Nordost Tyr 2 interconnects. Faster and more engaging sound. System has more bounce, it’s lighter on its feet. I also liked Kimber KS1126 (KS1026 for RCA). Came in close second to Nordost but can potentially be a bit bright if your system is on the lean side already. 

One more thing to add…summary from the What HiFi review of Amp 1 V2…

 

Pros

  • +

    Has an exceptionally clean and clear sound packed with detail

  • +

    impressive authority and bass power

  • +

    great stereo imaging

Cons

  • -

    Remote handset costs £250 extra

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    sonic balance appeals more to the head than the heart

@zlone run them in for 200hrs if they’re new. Keep in mind your amp needs to be on when breaking the preamp to amp interconnects.
And keep in mind you changed one of the key components, an amplifier. What worked with your old amp won’t necessarily work with a new one. Expect to continue making changes until you fine tune the system to your liking.

But to mitigate endless changes…My recommendation - you need a baseline. Get Bluejeans belden RCA cables, switch to all stock power cords. Listen to your system for a week or so. Then introduce AZ Absolutes back in. It’s a cheap and effective way to get to the culprit because at this point you don’t know what’s not engaging. The cables or your amp. Don’t continue dumping money into it.

 

As usual @roadcykler you’re singing the same tune. This is an example of how you and others like you who are driven insane by an idea that cables can make a difference bring nothing to the table. Absolutely zero. Why do you even post? You are just completely useless.

 

richardbrand

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... and on the 201-st hour the lord said "let there be light" and there was light and it was coloured ...
 

That was the fiber optic cable story. We’re talking about analog interconnects here. You’re clueless and still annoying AF

@zlone the absolute copper may be warm and may not be exciting sounding but lean they’re not. I had so much bass output in my system with these interconnects that I had to switch to the faster sounding Nordost. What you’re hearing now is your components. The amp and preamp in full glory whether you like or not. If you want more meat on the bone add a sub and or change your electronics. I know this is not what you want to hear but that’s what you’re going to end up doing. You can try and color the sound with AQ Hurricane power cords etc. but like I mentioned before that’s a temporary band-aid.
Good luck.

Saw it in your system. I will add some additional info for your consideration…

At one point I had Gargantua II cords and Absolute copper interconnects together and it was walking a thin line where another warm component ir cable could tip the scale. As it happened my buddy brought over his Absolute Copper sp cables and that indeed was a straw that broke the camel’s back. I absolutely hated it. I eventually got rid of AZ power cords and just kept the interconnects until they were replaced by Nordost Tyr 2.
Again just a data point for you. Means very little otherwise as our systems are drastically different but you can read between the lines. 

 

@zlone good!

if you want it even thicker look for Absolute Copper speaker cables. Might be a good match with those Kefs