2 Channel system sounds weak and lackluster


Hi

For starters let me go into my system. I have a 13x11x8 dedicated room (no room treatment at the moment and vinyl floor). Speakers are Focal Aria 936 driven by an Audio Research DSi200. Vinyl is Rega P6 with Exact through Whest TWO.2 phono and CD is PSAudio Perfectwave Transport and DAC. Each component is powered by and interconnected with Audioquest cables.

 

I have moved the speakers in many different positions and found close to the wall gives them the best sound, but no matter what I do they sound lifeless and have no real impact to the sound. Cranking the volume up helps to some degree but there isn't any intensity to the sound and just leaves me frustrated and wanting more.  The speakers are positioned on the 11' wall, though I haven't moved them to the 13' to see if the different angle changes much.

I also changed out the speakers last night with my Wharfedale Denton speakers and they were even more dull and lifeless.

End game for the room is to tear it down to the studs, sound deaden the walls and put carpet in, but other projects are more pressing at the moment. For now I just want to be able to listen to and enjoy my music.

 

Thanks all

boxboy83

If I remember correctly, the Focal Aria 936 have vented ports, one of which is located under the speaker cabinet ... correct?  I spent an afternoon auditioning those speakers several years ago in a sound room that was a little larger than yours (i.e.  basically a 17' or 18' square with 7.5' ceiling), had minimal room treatment, dropped panel non-metal (probably fiberglass) ceiling tiles and thin builder's grade wall-to-wall carpeting.  They were powered by a MAC MA5200, then a similar Luxman integrated and fed some pristine vinyl through a Rega P3 & Ortofon 2M Blue.  Listened to some of my test CDs, as well.  In that particular room, the Focal were positioned with their backs (not baffles) a good 2.5' to 3' from the wall behind them and separated from each other by around 8' or 9'.  My ears fell in love with those speakers!

How close to the wall in your room do you need to position your Focal to get the sound you prefer?  Is your room strictly rectangular?  Windows?  How many?  Where?  Any behind the listening position?  How much empty space is there behind the listening position?  What's under your vinyl flooring?  Plywood subfloor?  Concrete?  Is the ceiling drywall or something else?  Does it have beams?  Is there more than one egress or opening in the room?  Are the walls drywall?  How much and what kind of furniture do you have in the room?  Stuffed?  Minimal furnishings?  Large bookcases?

I know!  I know!  Lots of questions!  However, as some have alluded to here, all variables to consider because a sound room is as important as the components you put in it.  There is such a thing as overkill when it comes to speakers and power sources for any given sound room and too little oomph.  As for most things related to audiophile sound fidelity, matching components is important, and the sound room is all too often left out of that equation.

I am certainly no expert when it comes to sound room design.  However, from a practical point of view of having had different kinds of sound systems in many different kinds & sizes of sound rooms, per se, I would think twice about putting down wall-to-wall carpeting.  I recently got rid of my wall-to-wall carpeting and discovered there was antique type tongue & groove wide pine flooring underneath.  So, I had that refinished and listened to my system for a while with the bare wood floor.  Later, for aesthetic reasons, I put down a couple large Persian rugs and couldn't be more pleased with the improved sound fidelity over the wall-to-wall carpeting.  My sound room (i.e.  living room), however, is larger than yours and has a higher ceiling.  So, I guess I'm seconding or thirding or whatever the motion to experiment a bit, first, before going whole hog and putting down wall-to-wall carpeting.  Use some rugs or get some remnants to carpet the whole room and try that.  Then, use some area rugs in front of the speakers, etc.  I think that might give you a pretty good idea of where to go from there.  You may find you don't need any sophisticated room treatment(s) at all, and simple window curtains or drapes or a strategically placed bookcase might suffice.

Good Luck!   

Until you address room acoustics, nothing you do will matter much to improve your sound quality. Given your room dimensions, the critical distance, the point at which the reverberant sound level equals the direct sound level is between 18 and 24" in front of your speakers. At a normal listening distance, about 90% of what you hear is the room. Room equalization, contrary to popular belief, can do nothing to address this, as it only affects the input INTO the room and not the reflected OUTPUT, the reverberant field, of the room.

Some recommendations have been made using rugs and furniture - they will help a little, but a small room treatment package, including 6 - 2’X4’ 2" custom covered rock wool or fiber glass panels and a couple bass traps is really the answer. Room calculation will show you the recommend minimum square footage of coverage for your room. Acoustimac https://www.acoustimac.com/room-package-deals/home-theater-packages makes a great package for about $850, covered in your choice of materials and colors that will do the job. Once hung wall panels are easy, youll need a friend and a stepladder for the ceiling), you will hear a found improvement, and can start with other tweaks like speaker placement and toe-in which will now be easily audible. And don’t believe that more expensive panels work better. Under the covers they’re almost all Fiberglass 704 or Rockwool. 

Your Focal speakers are capable of sounding great, especially for their price point.  I had some paired with a Naim Supernait 3 in a large room and they sounded great.  I agree with others that a rug and furnishings could help, but I don’t think this is your only issue, I think it’s worth trying a different amp.

Thinking about this more I still say it’s the amp (maybe damaged during the move?) or the power / electrical wiring at the new place (either before or after the breaker, or maybe both?).  Try getting an extension cord long enough to get to another circuit?  Try bringing over the smallest speakers and amp plus the CD source to a friend’s house and try it there?