$100K system build - % breakdown of spend


I know there are several such breakdowns all over the web, but each different in one way or another. Thanks in advance for anyone willing to lend thoughts here.

Assuming $100K to build a system (indifferent between new/used) with equal time spent and enjoyment from streaming and vinyl (for now leaving out other digital and other analog), does the following ballpark seem reasonable? If you’d bump something up, what would you bump down?

Speakers - $30K

Subs - $5K

Amp(s) - $20K

Preamp - $10K

TT, cartridge, arm, phono preamp - $10K

DAC - $5K

Streamer - $5K

Cables, Interconnects, Power Cords, Power Cond/Regen - $10K

Isolation Products, room treatments and system rack(s) - $5K

 

Leaving out for now fuses, contact enhancers and the like. 
 

Thanks again for any thoughts. 

coys21

Showing 3 responses by ghdprentice

@holmz

  1. How do we identify quality?
  2. What is synergy?”

I recommend you start by reading Robert Haley’s Complete Guide to High End Audio. That should help you appreciate the nuances and complexity of high end audio. Also, a subscription to Stereophile and The Absolute Sound should help you understand what quality is and it’s relationship to sound characteristics and quality.  Synergy is also covered in these texts. I would recommend you listen to many components in a system… swapping only one ovation ally. This will help reveal what synergy in audio is.


 

.

“How much do you have to spend on a DAC to perform better than many turntables.” Let me try and address that. Obviously it depends.

 

But the best way to look at it as your digital end versus analog end.

 

Digital end: Streamer (or Player), and DAC

Analog end: TT, cartridge, and phonostage

 

Twenty years ago digital could not touch analog at any price. But slowly digital has improved and the price differential has been dropping. At this point, for carefully chosen and synergistic components there is perhaps a small advantage to analog… say 10%. There is nothing exact about this… it is so highly dependent on every piece of equipment you own and the performance level of your system.

 

My system performs in, say the highest 10% of high end systems. My analog end cost around $35K and my digital $40K. The sound quality is equal. When the analog vs digital end get down to $5K… I’m not really sure what happens… but I suspect the analogue lead jumps ahead. So, you need to put a lot into the DAC and streamer. At this level, you’ll probably have to invest In $8K + to match the analog.

 

Obviously this is constantly changing as folks innovate and better sounding components and techniques become available to manufacturers. For instance the Schiit Yggdrasil is only ~$2.5K and performs like a number of DACs over $5K. But make no mistake about it… if the rest of your signal path is capable of resolving it… the $10K DAC will blow it away.

If you are interested in high end sound quality and choose good quality and synergistic components… you get what you pay for.

 

 

 

 

I think you did a pretty good breakdown… but I would split the preamp / amp funds 1/2 each or more to the preamp… really important.

 

I completely agree with the speaker investment… I would combine the funds of sub woofer into the main speaker… or get 2… always add subs in pairs. Speaker differences in the $20K to $30+ are substantial in my opinion.

 

I usually spend all I possibly can on components… then over time add the other tweaks. More on the DAC…. $7.5 and if you can on streamer $7.5K (maybe used to get a really good one and you can get very vinyl quality from your streamer.