1.2k Output Impedance to 10k Input Impedance


I have a tube preamp with only single ended outs that does not have any output buffers and therefore a fairly high output impedance of 1.2k. My SS power amp has input impedances of 10k on RCA or 20k on XLR.

I have been advised by the designer of the preamp that anything lower than 50k or so will start loading down the line stage, so it would seem an imperfect pairing. My assumption is that at the very least I’d want to use the XLR inputs on the amp, as they present a 20k load to the preamp instead of the 10k vis the RCA inputs.

I have an RCA-XLR interconnect, but I’ve been told that simply using this will not result in a 20k load on the preamp and that the only way to accomplish this would be to use a passive transformer in line, such as the Jensen ISO-Max DM2-2RX.

For those that have experimented with these devices, do they result in any sonic degradation?

I'm wondering which might be the lesser evil – introducing an additional circuit and set of connections into the signal path via the DM2-2RX transformer, or running with a less than ideal impedance match between preamp and power amp. The answer is, of course, to try both and see, I'm just wondering if anyone has gone down this path before and what they found (heard).

Any inputs would be greatly appreciated.
srosenberg

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recommendations seem to vary here - i've read anywhere from 5:1 to 50:1 as a minimum, though most often 10:1 seems to be cited.

while i am just within the 10:1 guideline going RCA into my amp, the preamp manufacturer specifically stated that anything less than 50:1 would compromise the performance of the line stage, the impact increasing with the load on the preamp. hence my thought to convert to XLR.

If it matters, the preamp is a CounterPoint SA-5.1 and the poweramp is a McIntosh Mc252.
@ Grannyring - yes, thanks for the email. i replied, though it seems as if my note might not have made it to you. i spoke to Jenson and was advised that the most appropriate unit for my needs would be the PC-2. it is a 4:1 ratio and therefore would satisfy the needs of both the preamp and poweramp - the preamp seeing a load of 34k ohms and the power amp 225 ohms. Specs are here: http://www.jensen-transformers.com/datashts/pc2xr.pdf

the PI model that you mention would result in a 23.5k ohm load on the preamp and 4.65k ohms on the amp, which if i'm understanding correctly, is less than ideal (ratio of 5:1). Specs are here: http://www.jensen-transformers.com/datashts/pi2xx.pdf

all that said, it's entirely possible i was misinformed by the tech at jensen - he did several times correct himself through the course of the conversation - or i simply misunderstood him.

the SMc Audio transformer is another very interesting option, similar i think, to the PC-2, though designed specifically for this application.
sorry for the typo,
"anything less than 50:1 would compromise the performance of the line stage..."

should have read,
"anything less than 50k would compromise the performance of the line stage..."