Well you know what? You've all convinced me that buying a JL Audio sub , maybe 2, is going to be ok. This is great to hear, and everybody who's contributed to this thread has made alot of sense, so thank you all for your input. I think I'll just snap me up a Fathom F113 and give it a spin in my listening room. Or would anyone suggest I buy an Fathom F212?? My listening room is approx. 15 feet wide x 18 feet deep with 9 foot ceilings. I'm running MBL 101e Mk2's with MBL 9008A's and a MBL 6010D. Already a pretty potent match, and when I run my JM Lab / Focal sub...the result is quite good. Actually it's DAMN good (not to sound like a braggart or anything). If I step up to a single Fathom F113 do any of you think that would be "sufficient" given my room dimensions? I wouldn't be looking to use the JM Lab /Focal sub in the mix any longer. Just a single (maybe a pair?) of F113's. Or just a single F212. Again, as mentioned in my original posting, I'm a bass freak. So it absolutely MUST play clean, tight, loud as hell, and hit like a sledgehammer. The JM Lab / Focal I have IS all that...but only to a point. I'm looking for "bone-crushing" bass. (Yeah, I'll admit it. I'm into ROCK, and Heavy Metal, hence MBL speakers, amps, and Preamp.) That having been said- and given my room dimensions- what would YOU folks do with regard to my quest for monster, ass-kicking bass?? 1? a pair? Like to see where others would go with this. Thanks in advance for humoring me about this.