Dollar to Satisfaction Ratio not met.


Comments and assistance needed. I have a Bat VK51SE paired with a McCormack DNA 500.

CDP--Cambridge Audio 840c,

Interconnects--Supra- EFF ILS XLRs, & Kimber Hero via BAT adapters

Speakers-- VMPS 626Rs, ADS 1090s, Platinum Audio Solo

Subwoofer-- Velodyne & Sunfire

Power Cords, DCCA Eminence, Supra LaRod, & Shunyata Taipan helixs

My situation is this, sound with the BAT and McCormack is quite dull, I have muffled highs and mids, and just bass sound no articulation, regardless of what other equipmentinterconnects use to connect these two with. But when I switch out the Bat with my Nuforce P9 pre, it's a remarkable transformation, same when switching out the DNA-500 with my DNA-225, another remarkable transformation. So, any ideas, expertise, or suggestions, in the VK51SE & DNA-500 pairing would be quite helpful. I would like to keep the 500 and 51SE together for my 2 channel listening, please advsie. Thanks !!!!
jd_df
Why continue with the combo when you have already arrived at the solution? Our hobby is about synergy and when we find it we hold onto it and maybe tweak a little here or there, so we don't loose the synergy that's taken so long to find. Synergy to me also means arriving at the sound you really want to listen to without being in any way dissatisfied.
I agree with Larry. You've already answered your own question. Your current pairing is not good for you, and you've already demonstrated other pairings that make it better.

If it were me, I'd sell both the BAT and the McCormack, simply because you're not satisfied with the synergy there, and try something entirely different (such as a killer all-tube integrated, for instance).

Michael
Probably the main contributor to the problems you are hearing is that the output impedance of the BAT and the input impedance of the DNA-500 are not a good match.

Stereophile's measurements of the VK-51SE indicate a sharp rise in output impedance from 410 ohms across most of the audio band to 4700 ohms at 20Hz. That will result in a significant deep bass rolloff when driving the DNA-500's relatively low 10,000 ohm input impedance. Higher frequencies may also be affected, to the extent that the two impedances vary differently as a function of frequency.

I note, btw, that the input impedance of DNA-225 is far higher than that of the DNA-500, 100K instead of 10K. 100K is an excellent match for the BAT's output impedance.

Another factor might be that if overall gains and sensitivities in the system are such that you are using the BAT's volume control in the upper part of its range, that apparently causes its frequency response to deteriorate considerably. That occurs even when amplifier input impedance is high. See Figure 2 of the Stereophile measurements.

The only solution I can think of that does not involve changing or modifying components would be to add something like a Burson AB160XLR balanced buffer between the two components. That would resolve the impedance matching issue. That particular buffer also apparently provides up to 6db of gain, so you would be using the BAT's volume control at somewhat lower settings, thereby helping the second problem I mentioned, if it is a problem.

Regards,
-- Al