Not Another NuForce thread......


Ok, first I am not shill or related to, or affiliated with NuForce in any way...I just thought that we should have a thread to discuss the V2...

I just placed the Reference 9 SE "V2" in my system after living with the NuForce 9 SE for the past year and auditioning the Reference 9 V2 for the past 2 months...

I am putting out there for comment and debate that the Reference 9 SE V2 is one of the top 5 best amplifiers out there and currently available. (I personally think that it one of the top 3, but I am leaving room for argument)

Sitting in my room last night I was reminded of one of those transforming audio experiences. My first ones was couple of hours with the Sinus Faber Amati Homage pushed with a full compliment of the top of the line ML gear all with in a perfectly treated room....My experience with the Reference 9 SE V2 was like that...

Please comment if you are able on the V2 in general, what was your experience?? Are your thought of the Reference 9 SE V2 the same??
jb8312
Stehno: I assume you're a dealer for all of the other products you are recommending. That's fine, but you should mention that up front -- like in your first post on this thread. That's just the ethical thing to do.

To my knowledge, no one has ever accused Cardas cables of being zingy or having an exaggerated high end. And, by the way, my system is not bright at all yet it is highly resolving and highly musical. Also, my amp has a dedicated 20-amp circuit, which is far better than any line conditioning. I've tried probably 10 and while they may help in some areas the tradeoffs were unacceptable to me. I forgot to mention that my amp sits on a Sound Anchor spiked stand.

While the Wadia -- with the SE transport and GNSC extensive damping and isolation -- is fairly immune to vibration, that is one area that I could probably improve upon. I'll check into that with Steve at GNSC. Thanks for reminding me.

Incidentally, with your Legacy speakers (and the Aerials for that matter), which are neither phase- nor time-aligned, more time smear is coming from the speakers than any cable could cause. But I'll bet they sound incredible on highly processed rock 'n' roll recordings played real loud!

I have never heard a non-phase or time-aligned speaker that has as natural a presentation and imaging as speakers that are. You should check some of them out. It's amazing how everything falls into place when a speaker has coherency. Such speakers are ruthlessly revealing of problems with upstream components, even those that are enjoying some almost certainly short-lived popularity.
Versions - I asked Jason about the market perception (and reality) that NuForce makes revisions weekly. Because I, like you all, don't like to feel I am behind the ball from the get go. Basically, with the V2 came some new "patented" technology and other propritory changes. So, when will the V3 introduced, I asked? I was "told" that NuForce plans to stand on this Version for some time as they beleive, and I agree, that the changes made are so significant that improvment on it will take another major change in technology or the sort.

Yes, I may have bit off more than I should have when I claimed "one of the top 5", but I was (am) so impressed and amazed at the improved preformance that such a statement is not far off. I challange anyone to give a good listen to the 9 SE V2, I strongly suspect that you too will be amazed and find your self thinking and saying things about it performance that you would not have thought before about any amp.

My reviews? Both the Ref 9 SE and the 9 V2 are posted and the Ref 9 SE V2 is a while off...I have some others in line first.

Zing? With the V2 there simply is none.

It all about the V2. As good at the none V2 units are, the V2 is really something else.

John
John

I own the Reference 9SE's and have been blow away with the sound. I run them with Dali MS5's and experience ZERO listener fatigue. For me cables and power conditioning seem to be a moot point. This has never been the case with any other amplifier that I have owned. The 9SE's are so clean and clear that I find myself pushing the volume to insane levels. I am in the line to get the upgrade to 9SE V2's. I should be sending mine in, in about two to three weeks. My Cd player is a Modwright 999ES without the clock or new power supply. Everyone that listens agrees the sound is simply awesome. The 9SE's are the best amps that I have heard or owned.
To the person that said "zippy highs" I say huh? That describes most other amps I have heard, not these. I know as I have suffered from "bleeding ears" my entire audio life until I got the BAT 300XSE and now these.
Can't wait for the upgrade!!
Well I am going to wait for the ref 10v,or better yet the 20v2,by then I will be convinced that they have gotten it right.I sincerely hope they have with the 9v2.
Oh but it's OK for brands like Audio Research, Wilson Audio, etc. to bring out "MK II", "MK III", "MK IV" versions and constantly improve THEIR stuff, right? Man! Where do all these vitriolic comments come from anyway? Have either of you (Lacee, 9rw) actually LISTENED to the damn things? What the heck is wrong with a company constantly striving to improve their products? Are you guys still using 486 based PCs at home? ("We'll I'm just gonna wait until the new Vista 'verion 20' comes out, then maybe they'll have gotten it right!") Sheesh. Give it a rest or audition a pair already.

I don't even currently own a pair, but did have the 9SE's for about a year and they were amoung the finest amps (glass, hybrid, or SS) that I've ever heard. And YES, I've owned my fair share of amps over the last 30+ years (well over twenty). I'm currently running a pair of heavily modded Joilda JD3000 mono block tube amps, but with heat, high operating cost, etc. am once again considering another pair of NuForce - ESPECIALLY now that they have an even better V2.