Kimber 8TC beater?


Hi Guys,

Need your help in recommending speaker cables that will beat the 8TCs in terms of a fuller and bigger (image size and soundstage). Preferably in the same price rage or maybe slightly higher.

Thanks!
pc123v
"I think I could squeeze out a bit more "fullness" by repostioning my speakers a little but that leaves the smallish image size problem."

If you are looking to increase image size, you can control that somewhat with cable choice. Its better to do that type of thing with components, but for small amounts, you may be able to do it with cables. Generally speaking, the cable design that seems to yield the biggest, roust type of image, is a well designed stranded cable. The 8tc is a good choice for that. Cardas is a little better even. I have some Golden Reference that gives a nice, big image. It may seem like an odd choice, but a pair of MIT avt1 or 2 will image like that, as well. But whatever you go with, don't expect miracles. There's only so much a cable can do. That said, I do think your Supra Ply's may be working against you a bit. It wouldn't be a bad idea to try something different.
IME, cryo generally makes treble smoother and bass deeper :)

The best (and most expensive) speaker cable I ever owned was a British one called Townshend Isolda. It is luscious sounding, with massive soundstaging and very deeeeeep bass. I learned some time later that it was originally a copy of the copper ribbon Goertz MI3, but with a built in Zoebel network (I think Al talks about it in an earlier post) and that it was cryo'd.

Going on memory, when I heard Goertz MI3 natively, it was fair-good, but not WOW! like the Townshend. I can only attribute this to the cryo, I guess.

Put another way, I also had some cryo 3104 from TakeFive and it's the basis for my recommendation. I've not heard non-cryo 3104.

Reading TakeFive's page on their cryo, I see some of the characteristics called out that I mentioned: http://www.takefiveaudio.com/mall/shopcontent.asp?type=cryo

However, they also indicate it doesn't seem to always work on every cable out there.
@Zd542...Thank you so much for taking the time to explain. Yeah...it's time the retire the Supras and try something different.
@Loftarasa and all...for the 3104...TakeFive offers a "bi wire" option. Not two separate cables. It's 2 leads at the amplifier end and 4 leads at the speaker end. If I were to go with that...I will connect 2 leads to the mids and 2 leads to the woofer (separate module...I have the Hyperion 938). I would then use jumpers to jump from the mid to the tweeter.

Another option would be to get the 3104 in a standard configuration...ie...2 at the amp and 2 leads at the speaker end. I would then have to get 2 sets of 3104 jumpers and jump one set from the mid to the tweeter and one set from the mid to the woofer. This would be a more expensive option...ie....I would have to get an extra set of jumpers and one set would have to be longer than the standard length of inches and 2 set of jumpers will be connected to a separate module.

Your thoughts?

PS Thank you for your patience again...my knowledge in hifi is very very limited.
Oh blimey, these speakers are 3 ways for tri-wiring. What a pain.

I'd go for the biwire option + pair of jumpers.

You could also phone/email Gene at TakeFive for any other advice.