Shocking 3D sound in 2 channel


I've had it happen a few times where my brain actually thought the center image was real. Somehow the imaging lined up so well that my brain sensed physical objects in front of me - not just a believable illusion.

Can all speakers do this if set up right? Are there some that do this without fail? Was I just imagining it?
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The following provide tests, with which one may determine whether their system actually images, or reproduces a soundstage, as recorded. ie: On the Chesky sampler/test CD; David explains in detail, his position on the stage and distance from the mics, as he strikes a tambourine(Depth Test). The LEDR test tells what to expect, if your system performs well, before each segment. The Chesky CD contains a number of tests, in addition to the LEDR. (http://www.chesky.com/various-artists--jazz-sampler-amp-test-volume-1.html) (http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_ledr.php) BTW; The shape of your ears' pinnae is also a variable, regarding your ability to perceive images/locate sounds.
I have had 3D imaging with different six foot Magnepans since the 70's.

Room, amplification, source, positioning, and good recordings are essential.

I believe Panel speakers like Magneplanar and electrostatics work best at 3D.

If you do not get 3D, you do not have High End system, properly setup, in a decent room!

Buy Jim Smith's book "Get Better Sound".

Have not heard it too often in stores.
Yes, this happens in my system all the time. KEF Reference 203's and good music. I love to put the pre on "Stereo", have someone sit in the sweet spot and tell them to listen to the center channel... Then I tell them it's not on, that everything is coming from only the the 2 L/R front speakers. I had to disconnect the wires to the center channel on one occasion to prove it to an unbelieving friend.
Here’s an interesting example of audio geometry, courtesy of the album “Moving waves” by the Dutch band “Focus”.
If you have a copy of this album, tune in to the long track called “Eruption” (Side B of the LP). If you are using the CD, at counter reading 9 mins 18 secs.
(The panels in question are Martin Logan Vantages BTW).

Jan Akkerman’s guitar –
- Starts in the R channel, approx. 3 ft above the floor, centred within the panel.
- It slowly pans horizontally to centre stage where it pauses briefly.
- It then continues at this steady height to the L channel where it pauses again.
- Then, surprisingly, it climbs upwards to the very top of the panel (5ft) and pauses again.
- The guitar then pans at this new height of 5 ft to centre stage.
- It continues onwards to the R channel and pauses.
- Once there it slowly descends until it reaches its original start point.
- This completes a perfect rectangle, in the vertical axis, at the speaker plane.

Generally we are aware of a room’s tendency to height presentation but I don’t often hear elements quite as mathematically specific as this.
Once the mastering engineer adds a bit of reverb to an electric instrument the game changes.
The instrument leaves the confines of the speaker altogether and behaves pretty much like an acoustic instrument occupying its own space.
It helps when one is as easily amused as I am… ;)