Suggestions for New/Used amp under $3500


My System : Von Schweikert Unifield 2 speakers. Preamp outputs from a Denon 3311ci receiver. Room size is small (12x 15 x 8) but opens up into dining and kitchen. Possibility of moving into a larger space so headroom is desirable.

Planning to order a couple of amps and keep the one i like. Ability to drive center channel also would be a nice (but not mandatory). New or used does not matter.

Wondering if i can do better than Channel Islands Audio d200 mk2 monoblock pair.

Based on reviews and recommendations i have considered the following options:
- Emotivas
- Odyssey
- parasound
- butler audio
roxito
You hook your high-quality source for stereo music (let's say a CD player or DAC) directly to a good stereo pre or integrated amp into its normal input (if using a stereo preamp that would then be coupled to a high-quality amp), then route the front L/R channel preamp outputs on your AVR to another input on the pre/integrated amp (I used the AUX input but doesn't matter) or to the HT bypass input if the preamp has one (not necessary but very convenient to have -- more below). When you want to listen in stereo the AVR is completely out of the loop, and when you want to listen to 5.1 music/movies you choose the AUX or HT bypass input on the stereo pre and you're good to go. If you have an HT bypass the pre will pass through whatever volume levels you've set in your AVR, which makes it very convenient as all you have to do is change the input and you're done. If you don't have a HT bypass you set a "reference" volume level on your stereo preamp (I used the 12:00 position just to make it easy and repeatable) and then redo your AVR setup to set the proper volume levels. You just need to remember to adjust the preamp's volume to 12:00 every time you incorporate multichannel, and more importantly to lower the volume knob when switching back to stereo. If adjusting the volume knob isn't a big deal to you (it wasn't to me) it opens up a lot of options for a stereo pre/integrated amp as many manufacturers do not offer a HT bypass.

The limitation of this configuration is if you're after true high-quality multichannel music across all channels as you'll still be using the AVR's preamp/amp sections to run the center/surround channels. If that's important to you you'll have to pony up for a higher end preamp/processor and amplification, which can get very expensive so multichannel music would have to be VERY important to justify it. My guess is surround music will still sound very good even using your Denon, so it's up to you how much you want to spend to bring that to a higher level. A partial compromise would be to buy a good 3-channel amp so the important center channel gets fed higher quality amplification along with the front L/R, but you'd still be running that channel through the Denon's pre section.

Hope this all makes sense, and others here may have further helpful tips/strategies since I think a lot of us have done this with our systems. I probably made it sound more complicated than it really is, but let us know if any further questions.
update.. i tried the d200 mk2 from ci audio and ended up returning them. Did some A/B against my Denon receiver and found it really hard to spot any difference. I was a bit surprised but at the same time pleased.
Since the whole exercise cost me a few hundred dollars (restocking fee + return shipping), i am bit reluctant to try other amps listed here.
A couple of us tried to help you avoid wasting your time and money, but I suppose sometimes you just have to discover things for yourself. First, driving good $8000 speakers with any part of a $1200 receiver is a mismatch and a mistake. Assuming the CI amps were broken in properly, what you likely found was the preamp section of the receiver limiting whatever benefits the amps may have provided.

IMO your best bet is to buy a good used integrated amp and incorporate it into your system as I described earlier. For example, there was a Hegel H300 for sale here recently that was in your price range. I'd bet a good pile of dough that would have produced a substantial improvement. Depending on your tastes you could also look at Ayre, Pass Labs, or Musical Fidelity integrateds among others that should also work. And if they don't you could likely resell them at little or maybe even no loss.

Not to complicate this further, but I don't recall seeing what you're using as a source so that may also be an issue.

Okay, that's all I got. If you want a qualified second opinion I saw this from the Enjoy the Music review of the Unifield 2:

Mr. Von Schweikert stated from the very first that he and his staff were very people centered and that they are committed to provide advice and guidance to their customers. The instruction manual has a paragraph titled Factory Help. "If you do not achieve "goose bumps when listening then you have not found their full potential please call us for help. Customer Service phone number, 951-696-3662”.

As always, best of luck in your quest. You'll get there.
Soix is on the money. Lots of very good integrated options in your price range and you will experience a big jump up over the denon receiver.