Weiss is so underrated


I have had the Weiss DAC 202 in my system for about a year now being used in a very ambitious and high resolution system. But then I got that typical audiophile itch and given that this DAC was the lowest priced component in my system, I thought that it was time for me to focus on a new DAC. So with the help of some friends and a local deal I got the following DACs to try in my system for an extended period of time: Berkeley Audio DAC 2 + Alpha USB, Calyx Femto, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC2 and DCS Vivaldi.

The Berkeley was the most analog sounding DAC and had great image focus. In comparison when inserting the Femto I could immediately hear a slight loss of focus on the location of instruments or voices. The Berkeley also has a very little electronic signature in high frequencies which is very impressive, especially at this price point.

The Femto DAC is quite an impressive machine with a well balanced sound. It is a substantial leap over the PS Audio DAC in every way. The Femto has a sound that should work well in virtually any system although it is a little on the dry side. But ultimately it's lack of tight focus of images bothered me.

While the Berkeley has a terrific analog sound and no matter how much you dissect it there is very little if anything that one can fault about his DAC, there is something about it that I found just doesn't suck you into the music. I often found my attention wandering and being distracted while listening to it.

The Vivaldi is by far the most expensive in the group and while it was impressive at a lot of things, in particular how it was able to remain composed during complex passages, it has a certain bright sound that just sounds very artificial to me. It has that sound that is remarkable for audiophile demo discs, but when just listening to music you enjoy I found it to be disappointing overall.

The PS Audio doesn't even come close to any of the DACs in this group. It sounds lifeless, flat, and dull in comparison. Any experienced listener will hear this right away. Beautifully made machine with great specs, but it just doesn't deliver the musical goods at all. I would say that it sounds like kind of how CD players sounded in the early 90s.

But let me tell you, the Weiss despite its relatively low price point beat every DAC in this group, including the mighty Vivaldi. It's soundstage is absolutely massive, much wider and deeper than the other DACs which makes it feel like you are listening in a much larger space (the opposite of Berkeley). And then it also has this incredible airiness that is very special to hear. Images float on silky smooth and airy presentation which is supported by a very dynamic foundation. It is just a thrill to listen to this DAC. The bass is also the most dynamic (although not very deep) that I heard which gives everything far more rhythm and pace.

So the conclusion is the Weiss 202 is a very serious piece of equipment, a remarkable bargain, and probably one of the best DACs out there regardless of price. Has anyone else done an direct A/B comparison with the Weiss? Does your opinion mirror mine?
dweinstein
Thanks, Levy03. Has taken years to put together, with a lot of trial & error, and just when you think you have it right . . . . If you can, try a pair of High Fidelity cables. I was skeptical, but they are the real deal.

Neal
This statement by you is very telling: " But then I got that typical audiophile itch and given that this DAC was the lowest priced component in my system, I thought that it was time for me to focus on a new DAC."

Soooo, you based your satisfaction with your current DAC on its price relative to the rest of your system? Rather silly, donchathink? It would seem to me that components should be changed out based upon some sort of dissatisfaction with their sound quality.

After all, would you be looking to replace some killer YG Acoustics or Audio Notes or *whatever* simply because they were the cheapest pieces in your system? That makes absolutely no sense to me...

-RW-
I agree very much with Mcondon, he explained things much better than I did in my previous post.
Levy, I don't have plenty of money. I've worked very hard to put together the system that I have and made a lot of sacrifices along the way.

And wainwright, I think you are mistaken. Being dissatisfied with a component is not the only reason to pursue upgrades. Sometimes you might have a killer system but wonder how much better it might get. So this is like going from Ferrari (which you might be already very satisfied with) to Bugatti and spending 10 times as much to get just a 10% improvement.
" It would seem to me that components should be changed out based upon some sort of dissatisfaction with their sound quality."

Which is why I have a turntable, phono Pre amp and speakers eachnoverva decade old. I simply like them, like them a lot.

Funny, I don't have that rash, (or was it an itch), the op spoke of to change for the sake of change.

I guess I'm just an ignorant fool who actually enjoys his system, and based on the OP's criteria, since my cd player costs 1/4 what his Weiss dac costs, I guess I'm just starting out and decidedly at the very lowest end of budget stuff.

Incidentally, my first serious audio purchase was in 1977. And while I was working today I listened to my Tivoli radio, which I think is excellent.

I suppose is what annoys so many of the responders to this post is the holier than thou attitude this all started with. To the OP, you really are wrong in so many of your core audio beliefs, but I hope you enjoy your music more than you enjoy your system.

I hope this thread dies a quiet death.