Best in depth of soundstaging and ease for 2k?

Contact me offline, I could arrange to have you demo a pair of either the 700s, or the 702s.

audio physic virgo's. really surprised nobody mentioned these.

they totally disappear and have been stereophile "a" reccomended for years.

i recently pu the libra (one up from the virgo- i was orginally looing for virgos and found these locally) and i am really surprised by how well they disappear.here are a couple pro and cons of the speaker:

Pro
1. nearfield listening is required ( go to the immedia site and see if the speakeres will work in your room- they are VERY room specific.
2. totally disappear
3. very musical ( greatest strength)
4. warm sonic signature
5. a friggin deal at &1700 - $2100 for a used pair ( version ii is said to be the best. the libras go for $3k
6. holographic imaging ( greatest strength)
7. audio physic house sound- either you will love it or hate it
CON
1. Nearfield listening - they are VERY room specific.
2. careful setup is reuired to sidefirng woofers- bass can be boomy if not placed correctly.
3. ok dynamics ( this is where the libra smokes the virgo)
4. warm sonic signature - requires gear and cable synergy
5. not the deepest bass- good to 35 k ( libra is better here again)
6. careful setup - takes a long of time and patience to find the sweetspot
7.audio physic house sound- either you will love it or hate it

the nearfild listening position is very close to the speakers (6-7 feet- takes a little bit to get used to.

the setup requires 4 feet from the back wall and some space sround the speaker- preferred setup is on the long wall ( i use mine on the short wall fine though. you will get good bass response in your sized room and the speaker disappearing act in your room if positioned correctly.

the footprint is a very narrow but deep box ( btw,the wife commented on how these were the best looking speakers she has ever seen (i have ever brought home)

check the virgo threads and audio review. it is a awesome speaker and in the price range youare looking for. if you like the audio physic house sound- the question will be if you want the version i or the version ii.

good luck,

mike

I demoed the Joseph RM7si versus B&W 805, Totem Mani-2, JM lab Micro Utopia, Audio Physic (forget the mode). When I heard the Joseph I knew it was right. Your description sounds like I was looking for the same qualities as you are - detail and air and not that in-your-face sound. All of the other speakers sounded as if the music was being hurled out of the boxes at you whereas the Josephs disappeared. I ended up springing for the RM25is for the added bottom though I loved the 7.
Your choice of the Rogues is a good one. They give more for a dollar than anything else. I have a Rogue 88 that I use now with a Lamm LL2 which recently replaced a Rogue 66. I miss the warmth of the 66 but the added detail of the Lamm makes up for it. You might think of a Rogue 99 instead. I have never heard one but the review descriptions give the impression that it's worth it. Reviews on sites like this I have found to be very helpful. The descriptions almost always agree with what I hear, not that I like everything the reviewer does but the qualities are the same.

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