Rap music on high-end speakers


Hello,

I have audiophile taste in gear, but not in music. I listen to rap music, and occansionaly R&B. Is there anyone out there like me? What do you listen for when buying gear? I was wondering what are the benefits in getting better gear? I want to upgrade the speakers to either proac response 3.8 or wilson cubs. Here is my system:

Levinson No.23
aranov ls-9000
Platinum audio reference 2
Paradigm servo 15
kimber speaker wire
esoteric component wires
amc cdm7
tru
Regarding Souljasmooth comments,

RE: Hey Albert are you making fun of TRU's Audiogon name. TRU happens to be a group from the multi platinum selling company no limit records. I read your bio and I thought you had more class. I guess not. I am just glad that their is still some audiophiles that like to share positive comments with each other, no matter

Response:
Actually my first thought upon reading the signature "TRU", was the Budweiser commercial where they ask Whattttsssupppppp? Then the answer ends up with "true true."

I had no idea there was a group with that name. In fact, I cannot recall many (if any) members using music groups as a moniker. However, there have been many members who post topics just to troll. I seriously doubt that anyone really secure with their musical tastes would be put off by my silly comments. They were much too playful and light to have a cutting edge.

If you or TRU disagree and wish to retaliate, you may attack my favorites. Some of which are: Kate Bush, Bjork, Radiohead, The Doors, Stevie Ray Vaughn, KD Lang, Bill Evans, Miles Davis, Daft Punk, JJ Johnson, Billie Holiday, Louis Armstrong, Sarah McLaughlin, Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Santana, Bare Naked Ladies, Laurie Anderson, Yellow, Cowboy Junkies, Neil Young, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Lightnin' Hopkins, Nirvana, Johnny Cash, Louis Prima, Sylver, Herb Ellis, Chris Whitley, Hank Williams Jr., Red Garland, Etta James, Happy Rhodes, Tony Bennett, Mississippi John Hurt, Eric Clapton, Carmen McRae, Dave Brubeck, Tori Amos, Fleetwood Mac, and the Rolling Stones.

These are what randomly come to mind. I avoided listing classical, as the performance and conductor have almost as much to do with my favorites (there)as does the composer.

If you need a larger target, I have over 6000 LP's and several hundred CD's, that cover music spanning the last half century. I'm sure there are titles there that I love and you hate.

As for sharing comments, I spend a great deal of time answering what I can, many topics are dismissed or overlooked by others and I do take time to provide the best answer I can. Failure to respond is only when I cannot accurately answer or do not have anything further to add, due to the quality of others posters comments.

I do post silly comments occasionally, as many Audiogon members do, and consider it a release from the sometime too serious nature of this forum.

As for comments from Onhwy61,

RE:
Is it possible that those protesting most loudly have systems that can't handle the bass dynamics and rhythmic agility required for hip/hop. Maybe those with their glass driven planers.........

Response:
Even if this comment is not aimed directly at me, (I don't know if you even know my equipment). I assure you that if my requirements for reproduction was limited to the quality of rap and hip/hop, the efforts to get my system maxed out would be much simpler.

There are many automobile systems that slam so much bass that they are annoying from a thousand feet away.. Do you believe this represents accuracy, or affords a satisfying level of enjoyment?

Much of this type of reproduction (and indeed music) is about invading others space. Perhaps they ran out of spray paint?

I dare say that the accurate reproduction of a single female vocal, accompanied by piano contains more complex and difficult to reproduce information than most of the electronic and souped up sounds of pop rap.

Just one music lovers opinion, stated here in balance with the defensive comments from those who seem offended that we do not all love rap.
Controversial thread. Growing up my dad hated my hard rock music, busted my chops every chance he could. As a young teenager he laughed at me for buying my first quality stereo (with money I raised cutting lawns, etc.). He felt my Thorens/NAD/Mission set up was wasted on the "garbage" I listened to. Fast forward to today, my 11 year old son. The kid loves Rap music; trust me on this one, I sure don't like Rap. I put together a Carver receiver/Pioneer CDP/B&W speakers for him. I give him gift certificates for his birthday and other occassions, he buys Rap CD's. The moral of the story: don't be your dad, every generation finds new music they enjoy for their own reasons. A chacunes sons gouts. And, yes, seriously consider B&W speakers, they do a credible job in my son's system.
Justlisten
strictly a compliment, just liked your humor. Did you drop the k from my name on purpose? Oh well, If the shoe fits... . I've been called worse.
I ran into the similar crossroad when I was deciding on speakers. I listen to a wide range of music, including rap music. Originally, I started with cubs, proac 3.8, Dyn 3.3, and B&W 803. All of these speakers are great with certain type of music, but I ended up with the Dyn 3.3 due to their ability to be well rounded will many type of music. Very detailed, awesome imaging, and good tight clean bass extention.

Just ignore the ignorant/bias comments from individuals who think rap is too ghetto for hifi. Rap is just another form of music, and like many other kind of music, there are good songs and bad songs. Hell, I don't care if you spend $100K on a system and all you listen is talk radio. It's your money and can do what ever you want with it. People have spent thousands on the home theatre just to have a clearer door slam. Why is that so right and rap is so bad.
We wonder why "highend" is on its way out. People have you noticed all of the highend companies going out of business? To say someone has to listen to a certain type of music with "highend" gear is just plain stupid. If you feel that way than sorry but its time to get a new hobby. People this is a hobby! Tru listen to whatever you want to listen to. Sorry but when I go into my music room, yes I have a dedicated music room, to listen I might be in the mood for some Grover Washington, Jr. or Norman Brown, or Boney James, or Miles Davis, or Public Enemy (yes I have that too), or Nancy Wilson, or whatever. I even have some classical (sorry but this isn't high on my list) blues, funk, and many others. I want to hear good music and I want to be able to put on whatever I like and this is what I do. Again this is a hobby that we should be bringing as many people into as we can. Good music to one doesn't have to be good music to others. If you don't like the music sorry but someone else does.