Tired of My Thiel's!!! UPGRADE TIME???

try a nice tubed pre before ditching the thiels.

if all else fails, try the newform research r645's. 30-day in-home trial; yure only out return shipping if ya don't like 'em. i'm saving for a pair - i tink they'll be giant-killers for the price. check out the owner comments on audioreview, & check out their www.

The Thiels are very nice. Try replacing the Tara Labs. Nice cable, but maybe surpassed by the Goertz or Analysis Plus.

Interesting comment sgmlaw--the ONLY time I've heard Thiels and liked them was indeed when driven by an all-VAC system, it was a very good match! I think perhaps the slight politeness of the Ren 70/70s were very synergistic with the slight bright/forward nature of the Thiels. Just goes to show it's not the component in isolation that really matters, it's the COMBINATION of components that hits or misses.

I bought a pair of CS7.2s second hand. Occasionally I feel like I bought a Mercedes that I can't afford the insurance and upkeep on. But whenever I audition other speakers it becomes pretty obvious that the Thiels are doing some things that alot of other speakers come up short on. Purity of tone, resolution, superb deep natural bass, lack of coloration, etc. It's addictive. I drive my CS7.2s with Bryston 7B ST monos (Meridian 508/561 front end). I've tried some other amps such as ML 336, Classe CAM 350, Krell FPB 300, and McIntosh MC602. They better the Bryston 7Bs in some areas, but I found recently that adding a tube line stage provides the biggest bang for the dollars spent. So far the ARC LS25 works very well. Cable is also important with Thiels. I use Transparent Ultra ic/sc with good results.

I would first ask how "live" or "dead" is your room. The Thiels like a room on the dead side. I have a live room and the Thiels are no match. I am auditioning the Verity Fidelios and so far has been impressed. They have the speed of elestrostatics, they are small, well integrated, and sound great. I agree the Magneplanars are great speaker and you can not go wrong.