Vinyl Cleaning Fluid for VPI RCM


I have a VPI HW 17. I had been using Torumat fluid. I had 2 gallons I bought a few years ago and just recently ran out. It seems they must be out of business because I can not find it anywhere. If you know a source, can you let me know? If its not available, can you give me recommendations on a commercial cleaner that you like with the VPI or other machines(I don't want to mix my own concoction). Thanks for any input.

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Rackdoctor, you might want to buy a new keyboard, your caps lock key seems to be stuck on! My ears hurt from all the shouting.
Rackdoctor, the experience of you and Elliot would seem to be extremely rare anomalies in a very large sea of folks who feel the exact opposite. Given that the RRL fluids are found by most everyone to be the purest of anything they’ve tried or seen, reports of “deadening the highs” are very hard to imagine. Something must be amiss in your application – or something. As to the claim of “hand lotion ingredients”, I think you should provide some solid proof in evidence. “I researched it” proves nothing to me. Where? When? How? I had discussions with the guy who developed the RRL fluids (Brian Weitzle) and, based on his sincerity and detailed discussions of the research and development process that went into making the stuff in the first place, I’d be nearly willing to wager my system that “hand lotion ingredients” are not part of the formula. Maybe you have it confused with another product which actually smells a bit of hand lotion. If you can actually substantiate what you say about the RRL fluids, I’d be all ears. If not, it is a very irresponsible statement which should be retracted.
I have used a few different cleaning solutions, and was always on a quest to find something better.

I tried Brian Weitzle's RRL products and took an immediate liking to them.

I am so satisfied that both of his formulas are now my mainstay.

I do look forward to trying Paul's formula, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

As far as the hand lotion thing-- I find Brian's products so very clean that I bet they wouldn't half bad as a chaser.... ehh, maybe not the vinyl wash as a chaser.

nevermind :)

I am not affiliated with RRL in any way, just a happy camper.

Richard
Torumat fluid, I'm not aware of. I have a regiment with Harry's VPi machine that includes the Nitty Gritty First precleaner (now available again), a rinse, then the Disc Doctor cleaner, then a rinse, with good results for records that are second hand. For the new ones I use strictly the Disc Doctor and a rinse with distilled water. Mostly to get rid of the mold release chemicals. This works quite nice. Garakawa have you seen the "Zen and the Art of Record Cleaning Made Difficult" article? it is worthy of review and can be found at:
http://www.musicangle.com/feat.php?id=54
It is a bit over the top but helpful. Cheers!
Sorry about the CAPS. I am too lazy to to mess with the shift key. Here is your proof of evidence.I will give you my address where you can send me your system.

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=chem&id=2623

Maybe I could use the RRL on my face after shaving.I did not like it on my records. J.K.