Hi Joel; Thanks for sharing your experience(s) with bi-amping. The subject is quite interesting to me as I am planning a "passive" bi-amp set-up myself in the next month or so. I have Vandersteen 3As, and Vand. Audio highly recommends passive vertical bi-amping. Based on your experience, it sounds like you weren't too impressed with passive though. I guess I'll find out.
I'm no expert but I think your "active" bi-amp may have worked well mainly because you were able to set your active X-over at the same HZ that your speakers crossed over, ie 80 HZ. As to power rating, do your Yamaha amps actually produce 330 wpc into 4 Ohms? If so it should say so in your owners manual (ie, you can't just double 115 wpc and assume they are putting out 330 wpc into 4 Ohms unless they are designed to do so). And too, I don't think you can add 330 + 330 and claim 660 watts, because amp power is conventionally expressed in watts per channel. Also, if your amps are stereo amps (as opposed to dual mono), the bass side would likely be drawing much more power than the mid/treble side.
One of the main reasons to have powerful amps is that they can better handle the "transient spikes" in music that require much more power and occur especially in dynamic music with strong bass. Speaker impedence and sensitivity are important too. And of course the other reason is just simply to play louder. A speaker with nominal 4 Ohm impedence would likely have a range of something like 3 Ohms to 16 Ohms over their whole frequency range.
About "loudness"; it takes double the power to get a 3 dB increase in actual loudness. So if your amps were actually drawing 200 wpc (and at this point I think they would be very hot), it would take 400 wpc to get a 3 dB increase in SPL. But OTOH if they were drawing 10 watts at a given SPL level, then 20 watts would produce a 3 dB increase in SPL-- this would be a much more likely scenario unless you're running your system at absolute max.
I suppose the above sounds sort of negative, but I don't mean to be. I'm just trying to understand what you did so it might help in what I do in a month or so in my attemps at bi-amping. Again, thanks for sharing and Happy Listening. Craig
I'm no expert but I think your "active" bi-amp may have worked well mainly because you were able to set your active X-over at the same HZ that your speakers crossed over, ie 80 HZ. As to power rating, do your Yamaha amps actually produce 330 wpc into 4 Ohms? If so it should say so in your owners manual (ie, you can't just double 115 wpc and assume they are putting out 330 wpc into 4 Ohms unless they are designed to do so). And too, I don't think you can add 330 + 330 and claim 660 watts, because amp power is conventionally expressed in watts per channel. Also, if your amps are stereo amps (as opposed to dual mono), the bass side would likely be drawing much more power than the mid/treble side.
One of the main reasons to have powerful amps is that they can better handle the "transient spikes" in music that require much more power and occur especially in dynamic music with strong bass. Speaker impedence and sensitivity are important too. And of course the other reason is just simply to play louder. A speaker with nominal 4 Ohm impedence would likely have a range of something like 3 Ohms to 16 Ohms over their whole frequency range.
About "loudness"; it takes double the power to get a 3 dB increase in actual loudness. So if your amps were actually drawing 200 wpc (and at this point I think they would be very hot), it would take 400 wpc to get a 3 dB increase in SPL. But OTOH if they were drawing 10 watts at a given SPL level, then 20 watts would produce a 3 dB increase in SPL-- this would be a much more likely scenario unless you're running your system at absolute max.
I suppose the above sounds sort of negative, but I don't mean to be. I'm just trying to understand what you did so it might help in what I do in a month or so in my attemps at bi-amping. Again, thanks for sharing and Happy Listening. Craig