Uni-Protractor Set tonearm alignment


Looks like Dertonarm has put his money where his mouth is and designed the ultimate universal alignment tractor.

Early days, It would be great to hear from someone who has used it and compared to Mint, Feikert etc.

Given its high price, it will need to justify its superiority against all others. It does look in another league compared to those other alignemt devices

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downunder
Dear John,

You didn't answer my question, or might missed it. How should anti-skate work in a pivot designed tonearm ?
From outer groves to inner groves :
1. decreasing
2. increasing
3. decreasing then increasing
Or none of the above.

Regards,
Mesael

Sorry.

I said
The angle changes towards the centre not varying much, but under 7cm radius, the closer to the spindle it gets, the greater it becomes, until at 0 it is a right angle..

What this means is that the inward force trying to rotate the arm stays more or less constant within a few percent reducing slightly following the tracking error curve of the arm (not the tracking distortion curve) which varies across the record. Depending on the overhang used and the arm effective length, at the inner null the force starts to increase rapidly.

So it would appear that the ideal would be to follow this curve, reducing slightly then increasing.
However, it has been shown that there are other factors which increase the friction force as the radius decreases, which would skew this result and make it more likely that the force should at least be constant then increase, or even gradually increase all the way across the record

When I designed my arm that's what I did, as I thought that, like tracking distortion it seemed to be worse towards the inner grooves, and less of an issue further out, and should be weighted that way. But it was all "suck it and see". So, really, a tonearm should perhaps give the user the option of trying different things.

The actual amount of antiskate needed is very much dependent on stylus profile and downforce. With enough downforce the stylus will never meet a modulation large enough for it to lose contact with the outside wall, or even throw it up out of the groove. However there will still be unequal forces on each side of the groove unless there is some kind of compensation.

As Dertonarm says, a longer arm has less skating force than a shorter one.

But it is still there, and it has to be dealt with somehow - you can't just sweep it under the mat....
Hi John_Gordon, like it what you you said: we can`t just sweep it under the mat... this is also the case regarding precision! we don`t like to listen under the mat and you don`t do it too.

Best & Fun Only - Thuchan
Dear Mesal, John stated (04-11-11) 'It would be possible to
to design a cam system given different leverages so as better to follow the average variation...' Well this was
the Sony solution as I mentioned before. One get the impression that the issue is rather avoided then solved by
adding more(confusing) variables. But looking to the actual constructions of the antiskate mechanism one can conclude that not much thought is implemented. And those are all mechanical issues that can be measured as well as covered by Newton. Or so I thought.
Regards,
Regards,