Albertporter only needs 50


Hey Audiogoners,

Albertporter has made a great offer to coordinate the bulk purchase of cryoed Hubbel outlets. My feeling if it's good enough for Albert's system, it's good enough for mine. But we need more people to participate to make it worth while. Check this post out: http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?hbest&1021587031&read&keyw&zzoutlet

If you don't have time to check out the entire post here is Albert's offer:

"If a group of you want to go together, buy a box or case of outlets, I can get a quantity discount for us for the full cryo treatment. There will be no special packaging or wrappers, but you will have ultimate performance for a fraction of the cost.(This is exactly what I did)."

I spoke with Albert earlier today and he is willing to arrange for the purchase of the outlets in Dallas, have them treated and then probably ship them out Fedex ground. Albert would be doing us all a favor and his only interest is in helping the audio community. Let him know how many you are interested in. I'm in for six (6).
grandpoobah
I would think that two weeks would be good. This would allow people another paycheck to come up with the cash and a week for transit in the mail.

I would only suggest to Albert that he come up with some type of a plan on how to ship to the end user. Since i have gone through something similar before, my suggestion is to use USPS Priority Mail. Not only will they provide you with all of the boxes that you need for free, the cost of shipping is reasonable and they will deliver to P.O. Boxes whereas UPS, Fed Ex, etc... won't. Transit time using Priority Mail is typically three days depending on how far it has to go. Obviously, there are exceptions to any example, but this has been my experience for most instances.

Besides all of this, Albert needs to think about covering shipping costs to the individuals that have ordered them. His price above covers purchase of the outlets and shipping to and from the Cryo facility. This means that there is an additional fee to send them out to the individual. Since each individual lives in a different place and may have different weigths ( more or fewer outlets ), it will be hard for him to come up with a way to estimate cost on an individual basis. As such, i would recommend a flat rate for each individual outlet.

Since Priority Mail is a flat rate up to 2 lbs, i would think that this would cover at least a couple of outlets. If one were to tack insurance on top of this, it would be more AND this would give Albert a way to verify that the package was delivered. After all, insured packages must be signed for so nobody could try to pull a fast one and say that they never got theirs and get a few "freebies" on top of the ones that they paid for. While i'm hoping that nobody here would do such a thing, i know that Albert is honourable enough to try and make things "right" even if they were already "right" to begin with.

On top of this, i would recommend sending Albert a "love offering". While it is very "nice" of him to go out of his way to do this, this type of project eats up WAY more time that one thinks it does. You have to sort out the individual orders, pack them up individually , address each box individually, fill out the insurance forms individually, etc... Then you have to tote everything up to the post office, etc... As i said, it eats up a LOT of time since you have dozens of individual orders to take care of. Sean
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Thanks Sean and others who have suggested cut off dates. Two to four weeks came to my mind too.

On shipping, my FedEx rate charts were my start point. FedEx labels can be generated on line and printed from my computer. Tracking numbers would allow us to track orders, and insurance is reasonable when compared to USPS.

Maybe Halloween should be the cut off. It's beyond the two week mark and a date everyone remembers.

If everyone showing interest has responded before then, perhaps I should announce here at this post and move on with the project. I would like to turn it in a reasonable time so it remains fun and hassle free.
I second the 2 week cut off date. That should be enough time for any interested party to get the money order to Albert and not let his kind offer drag on too long.
My $$ is already in the mail. Just wanted to also thank Grandpoobah for initiating the Post. Lots of luck to you Albert on completing this project. You guys are Great!