Decca cartridge experiences


I really don't expect any response to this as the issue of Deccas, and all the controversies they stirred up is now passé, but does anyone out there own and use a Decca, and if so, did you find a tonearm which will accomodate it? I'd appreciate it if anyone shared their experiences with it, good or bad. I've found two tonearms in which it will work well: one a Mayware tonearm in which it works superbly, and one a Maplenoll air-bearing 'table with fluid damping trough, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting this combo to work again (I've only recently re-acquired the Maplenoll)...I'll have to fiddle with viscosity, amount of fluid and so on.

To all those who haven't had a chance to hear this cartridge, and who like to experiment and have fun (and tear their hair out), then a Decca still has the most slam of any cartridge, and retrieves an incredible amount of detail from the groove. Though these days it no longer sells for pocket change (the Super Gold goes for $850, but there are cheaper models), it's still not in the stratosphere like so many others. It is dificlt to find a tonearm which will accomodate it as well.

I'd appreciate as well any experiences with the new versions, as I hear the new stylus profile makes it less difficult. I think the responses will be "0", but any cartridge which stirred up this much controversy (at least a while ago) is Good News, like the Shelter (which is far more accomodating, however)...Thank you for your attention, if any attention there is...
johnnantais
Ssolman,

You can email John Wright at

john@jwaservices.plus.com

He normally answers his emails within a day. If you send the cartridge to Brain Smith at Presence Audio, he will just send it to John.

Best wishes,

Charlie
I have never heard a Decca cartridge but hope to some day. I lament the passing of the Garrott Brothers who sound like true idealists. Some of you might be interested to know that there was a lot of publicity in the American 'mainstream' hi-fi press when the Decca first came out, which was either in the sixties or early seventies - I'm getting senile. As most (all?) of you know, it went strongly against then-current orthodoxy by being low-compliance, requiring a high tracking force, and preferring high mass arms. There was a lengthy discussion and favorable review in Stereo Review or High Fidelity, or perhaps in the Equipment Buyers' Guide brought out annually by High Fidelity in those days. They did not dispute Decca's assertion that its cartridge would not cause greater record wear, and referred excitedly to the cartridge's absolutely 'hair-trigger' transient response. This is one of many examples of the mid fi press departing from its alleged Philistine objectivism. Anyway, some of you may be interested to chase down this review which included measurements. If I had a copy I'd offer to post it but if I still have it I don't know where I put it. If one takes the Garrott Brothers' views as defining the standard specification for the cartridge it would be interesting to lay this standard out precisely, since it may be that the original spec is not now available but could be replicated at an acceptable cost.
topoxforddoc,

which arm have you mounted your c4e on?? It's a heavy beast!
Does it respond best to the "usual" decca partnership of a damped unipivot?
Or does the bakelite body change matters?

Regards,
I have the latest london supergold , purchased in february of this year , the weight range is 1,5 to 2 gram with a 1,8 1,9 optimum .
This is average for a modern cart so no record wear .
I do suspect you need a good quality record player which is very quit and stable , because the damn design is so microphonic .
Doktorgigi,

I have my C4E in a vintage 1970s Hadcock 228 with silicone damping. I've used my Hadcock for 30 years now with Deccas - Maroon, Garrott Brothers Gold and my C4E - great match.

Best wishes,

Charlie