Recommendations for 5-Disc Carousel Player


Right off of the bat, I will concede that 5-CD carousels rarely fall into the world of true audiophilia. However, I happen to very much enjoy putting in 5 excellent CDs and letting it go while I work. In my 'man cave' audio system, I am running a Marantz CC4001 5-CD carousel. But, it is begining to make some ominous noises while playing discs in positions 2 & 3 - not a hitch for the other postions.

So, I am thinking about replacing it. However, I am finding almost zero selection in new carousels. Marantz has the CC4003 replacement. Rotel has dropped the carousel from its line as has Adcom & Sony ES. Sony makes an inexpensive one and Pioneer insists upon retaining the cartridge format, which I've heard to be inferior to the carousel.

Doe anyone out there know of other brands/models I should check out? I plan to use an external DAC to upgrade the performance - in essence, it will function as a carousel transport.

Thanks in advance! Have a great day!
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No contest. A refurb Sony 595 often going for $60 on SonyStyle, includes free shipping. A good review of this player appears on enjoy the music site. You will not need a external DAC. Buy two, have one for a spare.
I have read a lot of bad reviews about the Denon DCM 290 and 390 changers, bad reliability, worse service, but they have Burr Brown DACs - the 390 has a 20 bit DAC. No other changers on the market have these DACs that I know of - Sony uses Analog Devices, Marantz - Cirrus Logic. I am not sure what Yamaha uses. IMO from what I have read, Burr Brown is considered among the best.
I currently have a 15 year old Yamaha changer. It has no digital output, and I am in the exact same boat as the OP. It sounds OK, but I have a 15 year old yami reciever, so who knows what compromise in sound is amp- or changer-based.
IMO, if you're going to spend +/- $500 on a changer, buy an airport express, a MF V-DAC and a decent mini-toslink cable, if you have an iPod, you already have a ton of stuff ripped. Install AirTunes and stream to the airport express, if you have a wireless network in your house. I recently re-ripped everything to .mp3 320, which was an upgrade from what I had. Hard-drive space makes it difficult to go %100 lossless, so my tracks have to earn the right to be ripped in AIFF or WAV or ALC.
I oscillate between going PC audio and just getting another changer, I'm still saving up. I have been looking at the changer market, and you will occasionally see a used Rotel RCC-1055 come on Audiogon, Craigslist or eBay, and they go fast. NAD made a changer once-upon-a-time, the 517 I think, but I never see it used. California Audio Labs also made a changer that most think is the best sounding changer ever made. Also some of the old Sony ES changers are very well respected. If you bought one of these and it broke, where would you get it fixed? They aren't cheap, even used, and not under warranty!
The thing I like about the Yami changers is you can see all 5 discs at once, no need to rotate the carousel to change CDs. Sony's tray only comes partially out. I am cautious about the Sony and Yami changers just because their upper level 2-channel gear is not very well liked by the audiophile community. Denon has gone almost completely HT these days, so what would they know about a good quality changer? Apparently they know Burr Brown, which is good enough for me. Sony helped invent the medium, so you would expect them to produce a great product, and their current SACD changer is tempting, internet reviews are generally good. Would you also expect current changers to sound better than older ones because of advancements in D to A technology?
Forgive my rambling, just some thought to toss into the mix.
The Sony SCD-C2000ES is now about $249 new and it's a good machine. Mine has about 6 years with me now and serve me well as a player and a transport for my MHT Constantine DAC. It's like the 595 but with better construction.
I should also have noted, my current Yami changer needs a push to get the tray back into the unit, and changing discs is quite noisy, but I don't care much about that. I use the thing because I can run it and my Yami amp off of the same remote. The Yamaha usability is very bad, the display is quite small, intuitive use of the remote is non-existant. For example, on the unit, play and pause are the same button. But on the remote, play is a separate button and pause and stop are the same button. It doesn't remember what disc or track I was on when accidentally stopped, it drives me nuts! Sony's units are much better in this regard.
The Yamaha is so old it will not play .mp3 CDs, CDR, CDRW, or anything burned on a computer unless you use the "audio CD" format, which makes the files so large (even .mp3s) that you cannot put that much music on a single disc. When buying used, I would caution folks to make sure the used unit will play .mp3 and CDR, if that is important to them.
Just about my own experience. Try a SONY NC555ES.I'm using it like my second CD player now, with the Video OFF option.It is build like a tank and the carousel is solid and efficient.I realize that "accidentally" this machine became a wonderful cd player than the dvd player as originally was made.I saw some here in Audiogon ,offered for few bucks, a true bargain.
Again I say is based on my own experience, it would be a great transport also,I plan to add it a Benchmark DAC/USB in the future.
Hugs. John