If you have a nice system why do you really need room treatments?


Yeah you may need an absorption panel if your room is completely open, ie. No rug or furniture, ie just lonely single chair. But if your system can't cut it in any room then it's a system problem and you should be able to discern a good system regardless of the room.  Unless you put it on the roof of your apartment building but the Beatles seemed to have survived that effort

I think people go nuts with all this absorption acoustical room treatment stuff and it looks kind of awful.  Once in a while you see a really cool looking diffuser panel and I would definitely want one. But to have a system that works really well without any of the acoustical panel distractions is a wonderful thing.

emergingsoul

Acoustics has nothing to do with "vaudoo science"

You are misguided completely...

But if you think that some panels on a wall solve all acoustics problem you are right ... They do not... But that does not means that acoustics is a superstition created by audiophiles.. Read a book ... 😊

Lots of the acoustical treatments are voodoo science with results that may not do very much most of the time and actually served to dampen the room sound quality

@texbychoice

I did post some details within this thread about my system. You don’t have any details on your system and I’m not really interested.

I have a bass trap in the corner otherwise minimally treated room .

I’m a big fan of getting rid of reverbs so one absorption panel is on the far wall but so hard to determine what it really does in the scheme of everything else in the room. Speakers are pulled forward quite a bit and I do know this really helps.

All I’m saying is that lots of people just throw around a few acoustical panels in their rooms and because it’s a furnished room for most people I would guess most people are hard pressed to discern a difference. For those who have dedicated listening rooms that’s a whole Nother animal since furniture is minimal. If I had a decent looking diffuser panel I’ll probably put it on the damn wall. But I’ve never seen anything I really like looking at because most of them are pretty ugly and you need a lot of them.

@emergingsoul

"I have a bass trap in the corner otherwise minimally treated room .

I’m a big fan of getting rid of reverbs so one absorption panel is on the far wall"

A week ago you mentioned plural of both

"Treatments consist of corner base traps extending up to the ceiling, a couple absorption panels throughout the room"

 

"’i’m a big fan of getting rid of reverbs so one absorption panel is on the far wall but so hard to determine what it really does in the scheme of everything else in the room"

On the surface it would seem that you should be able to hear the differences in the room as furnished with and without the panel(s)/traps{s)  Is there something that prevents that? Also, would you not be able to take measurements with your dirac with and without to gauge the impacts?

 

 

Why is everybody so dependent upon what dirac says? Adding an additional absorption panel in a 20 x 18 room that’s furnished is extremely hard to discern. Maybe Superman hearing would do it.

Maybe on the dirac curve they’ll be a slight change but in all fairness I think people go a bit neurotic when it comes to sound treating their rooms especially when they are furnished.