Schitt Yggdrasil More is Better

Schitt MIB is isn’t a huge step away from the LiM sound, but it is slightly less dark, more detail, more open and airy on the top - you would consider it an upgrade, but perhaps not ‘night and day’. Consider it an evolution and slight step up of what you already have. Cheap upgrade though if you can buy and fit the board to your existing DAC.

@gavin1977 I am not going to change the LIM since it works so nicely with the LRS+ speakers in my office. 

The goal is to buy a second DAC and what you described above is the sound signature that I think is missing with my Livingroom speaker when paired with the LIM.

…no Schiit ! I will look into this Shiiit mess and make a comment here .

I’m always surprised when people say the Schitt Yggdrasil LIM is warm sounding.  I always felt the opposite.  It is one of the early versions of LIM #148.  My system is a very detailed system consisting of the ET LFT-8b speakers w/upgraded crossover parts, Custom all hand wired Cary Audio SLP-05 w/Mundorf MCap Supreme EVO Silver/Gold coupling caps, some custom made 125WPC Cary SLAM-100 dual-mono amps (w/Teflon VCaps) each with separate PS’s.  No slouch of a system  

The Yggdrasil was so thin and bright in my system that I had to do a ton of mods to it to make it sound smoother and cleaner before I could really enjoy it.  Lots of digital and analog PS upgrades, upgraded the 5 (each analog board) Wima caps to Rel-Cap polystyrene cube caps, which made a huge difference (cleaner, smoother) and chassis damping, and a few other things.  Took me a few months of going through it until I got to where I could live with it and now love it.  Before I did the mods I listened to it for a few months and then slowly made the mods over time.  Previously I just thought it sounded thin, hard and a bit grainy. Now it’s fuller, the bass is much stronger and fuller, the highs are smooth and clean and the midrange is now fuller sounding.  Way more textures to vocals so they actually sound more like real voices.  I thought cymbals were terrible on it previously.  Very crashy, hashy, grainy sounding.  
It’s not like I haven’t had other decent DAC’s either that sounded fine.  The best I’ve had in the system to test out was a Cary DMS-700 which sounded pretty good.  

I’m really happy with LIM now.  I remember reading that it was a warm sounding DAC’s and thought, huh?  I use everything in balanced mode and the preamp has standard 100K inputs.  I don’t know if the difference  in my listening is a matter of taste or system.  As I said I do have a very fast, alive, detailed system. 
Anybody else found the LIM to be too thin sounding?

@harpo75 I have a Benchmark DAC3B and a Yggi+ LIM hooked up to a Benchmark LA4 preamp. This preamp is like a surgical instrument and does not add anything to the sound. What I am hearing is the DACs. The rest of the chain is a CODA #16 amp and the Magnepan LRS+ speakers.

The DAC3B is bright on top and not as good as the LIM from my vantage. Comparing the 2 DACs it is easy to see that the LIM has a fuller and wetter sound. Maybe it is the Class A amplification of my CODA that is working so nicely with the LIM. The DAC3B does not have this characteristic. It also sounds flatter than the 3D sound of the Yggi. You really get great sound stage depth with the Yggi+ and the LRS+, but not with the DAC3B.

The only reason I am keeping the DAC3B is that I hope to get a slightly warm sounding headphone soon for my office and the DAC3B maybe a better match than the LIM. I also find that with headphones the soundstage issues are different than in 2-channel and the DAC3B does not hurt it cause there.

I also like the DAC3B a bit more with my RAAL CA-1a headphones when used with my RAAL VM-1a tube headphone amp. The LIM is too lush for me to pair with tubes.