Thiel Owners

JA - I posit that all Thiel models have benefited from toe-in for a high majority of users, including myself. But, it's a mixed bag of trade-offs and that toe in contributes toward the felt need to reduce high frequency energy. I'm unraveling the puzzle.

I'll note behind the curtain that Jim was smoking before he was a teenager and his high frequency hearing was compromised. Whereas his analytical ear was highly developed in sorting out the sonic integration puzzle in the lower ranges, he was comparatively insensitive to such nuances at the upper end of the sonic spectrum.

tomthiel

Yes, toe-in for the CS 3.7 speaker will certainly decrease high-frequency energy.

Keep up the excellent sleuth work!

Happy Listening!

@jafant  i am confused.  in a post above  you said that 3.7's do not require toe in but the above post says that toe in decreases HF energy.  that does not compute.

ronkent

Good to see you here today. The CS 3.7 speaker does not require toe-in to enjoy its inherent dispersion/radiance HF energy. In other words, Soundstage.

If an Audiophile chooses toe-in, then, HF energy is decreased affecting dispersion/radiance patterns. This is a matter of preference and taste. Hope this opinion clarifies.

Happy Listening!

Toe in will typically increase direct high frequency, but decrease reflected high frequency. Reflected high frequency can be more objectionable.
A tiny bit of toe in can offer some compensation for limited available listening distance. For example; with a 10’ center to center speaker width, a <2 degrees toe in can allow an 8’ listening distance to more closely approximate the preferred 10’ listening position.