Pure Audio Project Trio 15 - Silversmith Audio Fidelium internal wiring upgrade


PAP owners, I am looking for guidance on the benefits of upgrading the internal wiring on a PAP Trio 15 w/Voxatix 1.6 driver to the Silversmith Audio Fidelium cables and whether the benefits of the upgrade only really manifest themselves when the internal wiring upgrade is paired with the SA Fidelium speaker cables. The few comments on I have found on the PAP website laud the upgrade but I cannot tell whether the internal wiring was the only change made.

I would appreciate hearing from anyone that has experience with this upgrade or can guide me to post or review that addresses this issue.

The balance of my system consists of a PS Audio DirectStream DAC Mk.II, Auralic Ares G2.2 Streamer, PS Audio PerfectWave SACD Transport, PS Audio BHK Signature Preamp and PASS x250.8 amp.

rsimon

I heard the PAP Trio at the recent Capital Audiofest and the speaker cables were the Fidelium cables.  I have no idea if the internal wiring was also Fidelium, and even if it were the case, I would have no idea how tis affected the sound.  All I can say is that the entire system at the show was one of the best I heard at the show.  That being the case, the speaker cables had to be pretty good, at least in the context of this system.  

If a speaker builder offers a cable upgrade, you can expect that the particular cable chosen works well with the speaker (at least in the mind of the builder).  If you like the PAP sound overall, you can expect their choice of upgrade to be good.  I have some experience with a local custom builder and have heard the difference the internal cabling choice makes as to the sound.  One can easily hear the difference so it is quite important to upgrade to quality stuff.  The particular builder likes Audio Note cabling and uses different cables in their lineup to tune the sound to the customer's particular taste.  Even the choice of cabling to just one particular driver is something that matters.  In one particular speaker, the chosen wiring was a cable that costs close to $20k for a stereo meter (to the midrange driver), but a less costly run of cable to the tweeter (cheaper cabling chosen because the builder actually tried the same ultra expensive cable but could not hear a difference when cheaper cables were substituted). 

In short, I am saying that internal cabling matters quite a bit, so i expect the PAP people would be choosing the right cable to improve the sound of their own speakers. 

I just ran into a video posted on another audio website that describes an audio system with PAP Quintet speakers with the upgraded Fidelium wiring which was describe as "not a subtle upgrade."

 

 

Larry-

Thanks.  This is extremely helpful.  The system described is truly spectacular.  He really seemed to like the SA Fidelium internal wiring upgrade but was intended to use A23 speaker cables which suggests as you noted that the internal wiring upgrade will yield a benefit without also adding the matching speaker cables.

Again, thanks for running this down.

Hi,

I have the PAP Trio 15 Horn1 and had the Fidelium ribbons for trial on the interior wiring. They sounded good, a bit better than the VDH that came with the speaker, however I sent them back because I didn't think they sounded $1600 better. As silly as it sounds I ended up talking to Paul Speltz at Anti-Cable about using his wire for internal wiring, and we came to the decision of trying solid core 12GA wire (3.1) single run. I was blown away at the difference in the sound, clarity, imaging, bass, midrange, treble, you name it, it improved. The soundstage became much larger.  The speakers are much more dynamic, I'm thinking the solid core wire is allowing more data or current to get through, I hear details in pieces of music I never heard before, even with the Fidelium ribbons. It cost me $90 and to my ears they beat the Fideliums. I did see someone use the 4.2 Anti-cables on a PAP Duet pair, but don't know the results.

YMMV..check them out.

 

Jefferson

 

Jefferson-

 

Thanks for this.  I will reach out to Anti-Cable in the am and also see if I can get a loaner set of Fidelium ribbons from PAP.