As An Experiment I Stuck A Few Things Under My Pre-Amp And Am Now On A Quest


My system is built out, got the pieces I want in place, and struggled a bit with how it sounds. With certain recordings it was sublime and with others it could be a bit sterile or mechanical sounding. These are all solid state components in a Salamander cabinet, and up to this point I have never been a fan of isolation devices with SS gear. Now with tube components I did use spike type devices under amps and preamps, so I have had a bit of experience.

Last night I rounded up a few wayward isolation devices I had from previous systems and thought I would experiment a bit. The pre-amp contains the DAC also, so I thought I would start here. Put in some Wagner type pads, and got a different sound with some improved focus but the bass was lean and a bit odd. But things changed. I tried some magnetic pods I had, no change with them.

Then as a whim I cut two sections of foam pool noodle I had laying around and put it under the front and back of the preamp. I oriented them lengthwise. Something fantastic happened here! I got spooky precise focus to instruments, the bass response became impactful, the sound is more relaxed...perhaps a bit too smooth but I will take this over that mechanical presentation any day. This is sounding very nice.

So, after dinner I decide to cut a third one and perhaps the bass gets better. I put it in and all the gains are gone, it sounds worse than the first set of Wagner pads I put in. The bass literally vanishes and the soundstage collapses. Pull it out and things are good again. I listen to disc after disc last night and am pleased with the sound. I am spinning vinyl this morning and still feel the same way.

So now I have a plan of action. On one hand I am content to leave the noodles in place and roll with that for awhile. It would be nice to have a permanent solution though. It seems like I am looking for a compliant solution. I remember Brightstar used to build a little shelf that housed a bike inner tube in it, and I think Townshend Audio also had a bladder type platform.

It would be interesting to know what products folks have used that functioned in a similar manner.

Thanks for sharing any thoughts or experiences.

neonknight
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The JVC DVD player sits on three 2" maple cubes atop a BEL 1001 amp which in turn sits on three 1" maple cubes atop a Sumo Andromeda amp. I like to use wooden cubes between components.

Hi, I have dabbled in all sorts of isolation, coupling and decoupling devices. Ultimately I find the best sound (clarity, extended FR esp bass) are ball-bearing / maglev devices.

Bladders / inner tyre tubes give muddy bass (i.e louder but bloated) and slower perceived sound.

I like fast transients, overall speed, and dynamics. I use these (the "Lyd") which are expensive, but there are others (stillpoints, isoacoustics' Gaia, etc).

I recommend you try a reasonably priced chinese offering like this. If tyou don't like the sound the pucks can always be used elsewhere.

i tried a sandwich of coupling/decoupling/isolation minerals and wood and granite :

Granite plate -sorbothane plate-cork plate -bamboo plate-shungite plate- 4 small pieces of herkimer quartz as feet under ... ....

It worked for me ...You can try variation ... The recipe must include sorbothane plate ...

It work for me and all my gear are on a desk ...The speakers are also damped by heavy load compared to their own weight ...

The bass is 50 hertz depth and clear with no boominess ...It is amazing result for a speakers with 4 inches of woofer ... I also modified my speakers but it  is another story ...😊

I dont want to buy costly even effective product, i prefer homemade ...

Have a look at Solid Tech's latest footers with Horizontal Springs. 

These are a copy of alternative much cheaper to purchase designs. It won't do any harm giving the cheaper to be found footers a trial. I use the Solid Tech original design using Vertical O Rings