Off axis cloud placement


I am currently in the process of fine tuning my room which is 10wx25Lx10H.  I have GIK bass traps in all 4 corners and GIK absorption panels at first reflection. I have also treated the room with Synergistic research HFT's and a FEQ.  I have noticed that on certain recordings, the high end is a little bright. My dealer has also noted that the room was a little "hot".   I was thinking of adding clouds to help with this.  The sound is otherwise awesome.  My floor is wood with a large rug covering 85% of the area.  So now the problem.  The likely area of first reflection is occupied by a fan.  I am making two 4X6 ft clouds using Owen Corning 703 fiber panels.  Will they be helpful if placed just in front of the fan and just behind the first reflection point?  This will place one in the front third above the amps, and one over the listening position in the back third. Or is this just wishful thinking and a waste of time?

orthomead

@williewonka Have adjusted VTA both up and down from neutral.  Lowering VTA didn't fix it and made low end a little boomy.  Pretty sure I have it optimized.  Tracking force is per manufacturer, and I adjusted it with VTA changes.  I do have a digital source and will try that next.  Stylus has been meticulously cared for-Van den Hul Crimson stradivarius .  Steve, thank you for your interest in my "problem" which may be a recording issue.  That is easy to sort out.  Now just need to find the disc...

So I struck out on trying to find my disc copy of "Boys".  How wide should the table cloth banner be?

Way back machine here a year later..

I have a large roon with 9ft ceilings and a 52 inch fan hanging from the ceiling 12 feet behind my chair. I am always on the hunt for acoustic enhancements and have used flat finish paints to calm hot spots. I constructed simple devices and placed in the room to increase laminar flow and to increase focus within a already large and focused soundstage.

In order to explain this journey in short form I decided to treat my fan blades and use it as an acoustic suppliment. It works as auditioned for many friends and a few family members. Finding that low sheen wall finishes soften and may even reduce shear wave energy I applied those ideas to the rotating fan blades. I use a black paint that contains no titanium oxide and added my own mixture of metals that have a low shear wave velocity. Mixed this all into the gallon of store bought paint returned to the store and had it re shaken and not stirred. I applied 3 heavy coats to both sides of the blades. Instant improvement on all aspects that are important to me. Since this 1st time, I purchased a standmount fan that has 16 speeds and a dc motor that is whisper quiet. This stand mount fan is placed dirrctly in line with my my chair 8ft back. The blades are treated in the same manner as the ones on the ceiling. Again the same type and amount of improvement as the ceiling unit. The stand mount sounds as if it has slightly better focus. I believe the fans overcome boundary effects caused by furniture,walls and the audio chassis and speaker cabinets. With the fan running in reverse and behind me the airflow has music attached and moves more easily around obstacles including my own body. Increase in laminar flow is most likely. Tom

@orthomead 

I have a room with the same width dimensions but only 8’ in height. There are two 48” x 48” panels on the walls covering the first reflection points (one per side) on Z track for adjustability. The listening position starts just past the furthest edge of the panels (from the speaker). On the ceiling in front of the listening position (parallel to the panels edge) there is another 36” x 72” panel basically creating an absorption plane between the front edges of the speakers and the listening position- there is nothing behind the listening position and it is 6’ +/- to the rear wall. It works well.

One question- since you have 10’ ceilings why not adapt the fan base to extend below the thickness of your ceiling panel. Assuming the panel is no more than 2” thick it shouldn’t be a big deal. Create a hole in the panel and remount the fan afterwards. Just an idea-

@theaudiotweak What an interesting concept.  Which fan has the biggest influence.  I have ceiling fan, but its blades are only 40".  No space behind me for another fan.  Why no titanium oxide in the blade treatment?

@designsfx Since my last post, I did install my ceiling acoustic treatments along quadratic diffusers on the front wall.  The cloying high end has improved significantly.  I suspect its the clouds.  For me, problem solved