Speakers 10 years old or older that can compete with todays best,

 @kennymacc 

The Salons 2 are a keeper. 

@illaheman

I might recommend you play around with the Rythmic's placement and especially crossover setting. Sometime setting the point too high muddies up the detail full range. On my speaker the rolloff point is 40Hz (f3) so I setting the cover in that region. Turning the woofer volume down can help.

This is not to say Mike’s room does not sound good but he does stubbornly refuse to make it sound better

@mijostyn

not doing dsp is not refusing to make things better; you are blind to a different approach. after building the room and taking 11 years refining it, i then put enormous sweat equity for 9 months tuning the room and making my room sound better.

you are blinded and maybe offended by my investment in gear, and ignore all the work i’ve done. that is not fair. come listen, then form your opinion. many have.

we don't have to agree. i don't question that you have a great room and performance. if you say you do, then why would i question it?

I’m still loving my 30 year old a/d/s L1290 that have been completely refreshed with original parts. I have a nice pair of a/d/s sat5 bookshelf in storage. 
 

cheers. -

Incredible arrogance....

I was already confronted by arrogance and ignorance too from the same person for the same reason ...Mike lavigne because his system cost are one of the highest in audiogon and the more spectacular, myself at 700 bucks one of the lowest in audiogon; the two system with a claimed good sound quality experience by their satisfied owners in their own bracket S.Q. /price ratio .... Is it a coincidence ? Are we ignorant ? one ignorant by paying too much without the recommended DSP and me by paying not enough without the recommended DSP ... ( i used equalization for my headphone by the way and as Lavigne had already said i think DSP also may be a useful tool )

DSP of any kind is a tool or a component but not always necessary as a tool or as a component...

The only necessary DSP as a component IN ALL CASE and for everyone in my opinion is the BACCH filters...It is more than a useful tool or a mere component , it is more than a mere equalization tool . it is a psycho-acoustic revolution in the making ... But even this BACCH filters does not replace room acoustic and room tuning mine or Lavigne...... Room tuning does not even exist in  mijostyn opinion  as he said to me, this is pure ignorance  ... For example if you use some Helmholtz resonators grid, you tune the room pressure zones form and distribution by their parameters and location , you modify the room in some way not only the speakers response ...I call that room tuning...It can be made invisibly in the wall itself and esthetically etc ...Mine was homemade and unesthetical not perfect either but spectacularly transformative FOR ME ...At least i learned acoustic using my hands and ears...

We cannot impose to others our diktat for their own acoustic experience, too much parameters are implicated...

This is not to say Mike’s room does not sound good but he does stubbornly refuse to make it sound better