ARC Ref 6 Tube Microphonics


Hi All, I purchased a used Ref 6 preamp a few months ago, initially everything was fine, tube hours indicator said ~950 hours but not sure if that was accurate. After about 50 hours of use, turning the volume past 0 and the mechanical relay kicks in, a chime is heard coming through the speakers. I assumed one or more tubes had become microphonic. I replaced all tubes with new ARC select from Upscale, 7 Sovtek 6H30Pi, 1 Sovtek 6550WE. I let it warm up for a few hours, turned volume past 0 and the same chime is still there. On the positive side, the SQ improvement was immediately noticeable and outstanding, I love the preamp in my setup but the microphonic chime is annoying. ARC service said that some chime is normal but it still bothers me. Any advice? Ignore it? A new set of tubes direct from ARC? New tube rings? Send in to service? Thanks.

agbrace

I have owned a Audio Research Ref 5SE for many years, auditioned a Ref 6, and currently own a REF6SE for several years. Dead silent. Call Audio Research. I am sure they will guide you. Probably a repair.

I would strongly argue against this action. At most, a new tube set is warranted. There is going to be a lot of variance on "sensitivity" to this issue because its impact varies a LOT based on the downstream. Systems with high gain amps and highly sensitive speakers will render the "chime" very prominently, because it occurs AFTER the volume control (i.e. a low volume level does not control it).

In my system (96dB speakers, ~ 30dB amps), there probably isn’t a 6H30 preamp on earth where I wouldn’t notice the chime on relay switch.

Microphonics is a tube thing more than an amp thing.  Don't fix the wrong component.

Interesting, I am using the Ref 6 connected to a Hegel H20 and then to a pair of Harbeth 40.3XD. I believe the H20 has higher than average gain at 32dB. Also the output/input impedance matching of the Ref 6 and H20 appear to be just barely OK with the avg. output of the Ref 6 being ~600 ohms and the input of the H20 being 9.4k ohms, I am using XLR. JA's measurements set a recommended lower limit of 10k ohms for amplifier matching so maybe this isn't a very good match. 

Interesting, I am using the Ref 6 connected to a Hegel H20 and then to a pair of Harbeth 40.3XD. I believe the H20 has higher than average gain at 32dB. Also the output/input impedance matching of the Ref 6 and H20 appear to be just barely OK with the avg. output of the Ref 6 being ~600 ohms and the input of the H20 being 9.4k ohms, I am using XLR. JA’s measurements set a recommended lower limit of 10k ohms for amplifier matching so maybe this isn’t a very good match.

@agbrace That 32dB amp gain is definitely higher than average, though not unheard of. This is certainly boosting your audible "chime"! In my case I was running Rogue Apollo Dark monoblocks with ~33dB gain. At times it felt like ungodly amounts of gain. Anyways, inline attenuators (say 10dB) placed between preamp and amp can reduce the chime proportionally if you have the gain to spare (you do, between 14dB Ref 6, plus 32dB Hegel) - BUT most ready-made attenuators are RCA, and you have to deal with the old "does this extra connection & resistor reduce sound quality" thing we all torture ourselves with here (in reality, it’s a negligible impact).

That Hegel’s 9.4K input impedance (XLR) is almost shocking. Much lower than I’d expect or want. That said, it’s a marginal mismatch, but not enough to have bearing on the tube chime issue. The Ref 6 is cap coupled, so maaaaybe you start losing some bass power due to the low input impedance, depending on the value of those caps. Which is a shame because the Ref 6’s "proper" bass is amazing.

The single ended connection between the Ref6 and H20 appear to be much more cooperative at 300 ohms / 50k ohms.