Considering A 20-40 Watt Stereo SET Amp


I just got over a 16 day illness (not Covid) where it was touch and go for a few days. I am thinking of rewarding myself with a 20-40 watt stereo SET amp. The speakers I will use are a pair of the new JBL L100 Classic speakers that I bought at the end of 2020. The speakers are rated at 4 ohms @90db sensitivity.

Presently, I am using a McIntosh integrated and I do not listen loud. The meters on the Mac usually sit between .20 and 2 watts at its loudest. I have not started looking yet but I do know I want something with 1 pair of outputs so I can use my SVS powered subwoofer with it. I would also need 3 high level inputs. I don’t want to break the bank as this would be a secondary amp to put into rotation as the mood strikes me.

I do not want a flea powered amp so it has to be 20-40 watts and under 4 grand new. Used would be even better. I am hoping I can be steered in the right direction so I can start my research. I do not want to have to buy other components to accommodate the amp. Source components are a McIntosh SACD player, McIntosh FM tuner and a Sony HAP-Z1ES music player. Nordost interconnects and Canare speaker cables, Shunyata power cords and a Furutech power conditioner round out the system. The amp must be stereo, no monoblocks please. 99% of my listening will be through my Mac FM tuner. The system is also on its own dedicated 20-amp circuit.

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I believe that Canary Audio makes both zero NFB SET and push-pull 300b amplifiers. I don’t know if anyone has done a direct comparison between these two versions.

@charles1dad I have to imagine Canary has... PP amps, just like SETs, vary quite a lot depending on design concerns! For example, single-ended circuits exhibit in mathematical terms a quadratic non-linearity, which describes how the harmonic distortion arises. When measured, it is found that the math accurately predicts the harmonic content.

OTOH, a fully balanced differential circuit exhibits a cubic non-linearity. In this case the even orders are cancelled; ideally only odd orders remain, but they fall off at a much faster rate as the order of the harmonic is increased (with the 3rd harmonic masking them). This again is accurately predicted by the math.

So this is where I'm going with this: when you combine both single-ended and PP circuits in the same amp (such as seen in almost any traditional PP amp, like a Dyna ST70), you get both non-linearities. This tends to exacerbate the 5th harmonic (Norman Crowhurst also wrote about this problem).

So if the comparison is between an SET and and a traditional PP amp, you are getting more 5th than you would if the PP amp was fully balanced. I've no doubt this is a lot of why SETs can be preferred.

These are all readily solved engineering issues though- its not hard to build a PP amp that does not have that problem! This is part of what I meant when I used the phrase 'cast a wider net'.

The SET’s with 845’s are very musical and run around 4-5 K.....I have one with 22 WPC...or try CAYIN , who always get great reviews. (Thomas and Stereo)

SET 845s are musical but also a little slow and rolled off sounding (from the ones I have tried or owned). 

I have a 300B / 845 amp that I would love to get rid of but no one has a forklift to pick it up!

To the OP for SET in that wattage the 300B quartet in parallel single ended mode gets there. SET KT150s tend to sound more hifi / solid state but can produce the wattage. Closer to the KT88 push-pull tone.

Not sure about a SET with pre out for sub though. Icon Audio has a tape monitor circuit but not variable out pre.

https://iconaudio.com/stereo-300-mkii-300b-integrated-amplifier-stereo-300-mkii

https://iconaudio.com/stereo-30-se-single-ended-integrated-amplifier-stereo-30se

https://en.cayin.cn/features/8/57/73/369.html

 

Check out Quicksilver Audio. I own 300B amps, and Quicksilver Audio amps also. Quicksilver amps are biased partially triode mode, and are the closest conventional tube amps I have heard that sound like SET. They have a new integrated amp, using 6BQ5/EL84 tubes. 6 inputs. $2495. I have owned several of their tube amps, and have always enjoyed their sound. Currently have the Mid Monos. 

Link here:

Integrated Amplifier – Quicksilver Audio