Is soundstage DEPTH a myth?


Ok, help me out fellas. Is it a myth or what?

I’m a good listener, I listen deep into the music, and I feel like I have good ears. But I can’t confirm that I can hear soundstage depth. I can hear 1 instrument is louder, but this doesn’t help me to tell if something is more forward or more behind. Even in real life and 2 people are talking, I can’t honestly say I know which one is in front.

The one behind will sound less loud, but is that all there is to soundstage depth? I think the answer I’m looking for has to do with something I read recently. Something about depth exist only in the center in most system, the good systems has depth all around the soundstage.

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Cristina Vane (alt-country with fiddle) makes very fine albums with depth and width. Doesn’t make the mistake of bringing the drums forward or using only left or right channel for instruments thereby creating a natural and “live” soundstage.

Bon Iver’s The Wolves (Act I and II) listen for the ambulance. If you can hear it far away and then get closer your system can do depth.

 

Toddalin, I think your right about listening room waveform interactions.

     When I get a new CD I usually first listen on my standalone OPPO 83, Pontus II, Jot 2, Aria headphone system to evaluate all the detail, ambiance, tone/timbre, space around instruments/voices, base clarity, etc, etc.

    I'm often pleasantly surprised when I play the same CD on my OPPO 105, Bifrost 2, Pioneer Elite, Vandersteen CE 2, HSU sub, home theater, set for 2 channel...which has less of all the above but often very obvious added depth and height sounds,  Those original Chesky binaural recordings being the exceptions... best on phones.  Also engineered play with phase, I think, can put sounds behind me on the phones.  Very much enjoy both presentations!

most certainly soundstage depth is real, I suppose depending on your speakers and your positioning

with my old Epi 100 speakers, close my eyes and can discern drummer in back, singer ahead, sax over there to the left somewhere in-between depth, chorus to the right and back... and effects, even in music, that emerge up front but then fade up and away and off to rear space

with my new Heresy IV the effects range from dramatic like sounds zooming from way back in the distance towards the front and then wooshing overhead, or subtle like a guitarist stepping forward to play a solo and then back again, or a singer stepping forward to the mic, and even the sway of a singer's body or head movements in space both side-to-side and front-to-back.  It's palpable, and definitely has depth.

A’gon site won’t let me post the complete link, but if you want another answer, some food for thought, try searching for gramophone-dreams-26-nelson-pass-harmonic-distortion.

Of course, those among the audioscenti here who have golden or platinum ears and hearing BEYOND that of mere mortals will argue to the contrary.

But… that’s what they do.

Sometimes it takes a lot of effort to keep convincing yourself you’re better than.