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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

128x128donavabdear

Sure, NP. Post some graphs on your system page when you get the new genelec crossover.

@thespeakerdude 

Post some graphs on your system page if you ever get a system.🤥

@donavabdear , I better hear about you sending those JL subs in for service or I am going to drop a bollock! :-) .... which I honestly have no idea what that means in totality, but I always liked the sound of it and it doesn't get censored so it can't be that bad.

 

For the record @kota1, while I have generally respected Magico, I lost some respect for them looking at their crossovers:

  • Foil wounds inductors on an iron core? That is just about the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Foil inductors are already sort of dumb, but a low frequency coil foil wound on an iron core? That is just pandering.
  • Worse, is one of those crossovers is from a $70,000 speaker. For $70,000 for speakers, they could afford a 2 layers PCB instead of being cheap and going single layer. Even the PCB in the much cheaper PS Audio speaker is double sided. Why is double sided important? Strength and reliability. The connection soldered on both sides of the PCB (and the connecting hole) is much stronger which is important with heavy parts.

@thespeakerdude

Are you for real? The small copper foil in the Magico XO costs more than the entire PS Audio XO, including the PCB (which is about ¼ thickness of the Magico PCB).

And what is wrong with a copper foil inductor??

@mheinze 

+1, the Magico crossovers are designed in house and custom made by Mundorf in Germany, ($$$) not some factory in Shenzen.