SUT - electrical theory and practical experience


Some vinyl users use a SUT to enhance the signal of the MC cartridge so that it can be used in the MM input of a phono stage.  Although I don't understand the theory behind it, I realize that a SUT should be matched individually to a particular cartridge, depending on the internal impedance of the MC, among other things.  

Assuming an appropriately / ideally matched SUT and MC, What are the inherent advantages or disadvantages of inserting a SUT after the MC in the audio chain?  Does the SUT theoretically enhance or degrade the sound quality?  What does the SUT actually do to the sound quality? 

Thanks. 

drbond

I can only speak a little to the theory.  A step up transformer works on the same principle of voltage transformation used for AC power products.  For instance, when you buy gear designed for US voltages but want to use it in Japan.  Transformers can convert one voltage to another, but the power on either side of the transformer is roughly the same (minus losses). 

That is, a 100V to 120V transformer will still have the same power (current x voltage) on either side, 

That is also how I generally thing of them as well @erik_squires - but they are also a current converter to some extent… and the current coming in gets changed inversely proportional to the voltage change.

And… also they (SUTs) work on magnetic fields so they are a current device.

 

@drbond Maybe think of a 10:1 transformer as increasing the winding on the cartridge by 10x?
Just not making the cartridge’s motor 10x heavier.

I am still a bit uneasy as the cartridge is more of a current generating motor than a voltage generator.

 

Pretty sure one cannot be a fan of Sutherland, and other trans impedance phono stages… and simultaneously a fan SUTs. Maybe it is possible.

Holmz, please read my long post and Larry’s too, near the top of this thread. Of course transformers transform both voltage and current in direct proportion. The product of volts X current on the primary equals the product of volts X current on the secondaries. Don’t make the subject harder or more vague than it needs to be.

Dave Slagle is well a known and respected manufacture of custom SUTs and does an excellent description of the theory and details - intact audio.  Beyond that he winds with both copper and silver, and each will have a different perspective to the music.  There are variations in core material that can influence the sound with each SUT manufacturer often favoring one over another.  

My own experience has been quite positive moving from a solid-state phono-preamp to a Tron Seven Reference with SUT and tubes and was quite surprised on the overall improvement, much more than incremental - equally quiet with better bass and overall extension and soundstage.  But the devil is in the details, and results can vary.

@lewm your post gave me pause, and I reviewed Maxwell and Faraday… and I see that the voltage and current are indeed related in Maxwell’s equations.

antinn,

A friend has the Tron and it is indeed a good pono stage.  You can tailor the sound to your specific system and taste by trying different tubes.  This is a component worth going that extra mile to optimize.

As to the issue of built in or separate SUT, I have mixed feelings.  A built in SUT of good quality will save one the expense and trouble with finding the right interconnect.  Also, outboard SUT tend to be more prone to picking up noise and hum from external electrical fields.  On the other hand, one can, with separate SUTs, one can find the best match for your choice of cartridge and one can move the SUT around to minimize hum and other noise issues, whereas, if the built in SUT is the source of such noise, one cannot change its location and orientation.  As to the optimizing of the choice of SUT.  I agree with what Art Dudley said many years ago.  He noted that even when a particular SUT supposedly has non-optimal gain or other characteristics for a particular cartridge, he noted that they usually still sound very good.  He said that he never found a SUT that he didn't like.