Streamer/DAC - Where is the value?


I currently have ($10K) Olympica Nova II speakers, ($11K) McIntosh MA9000 integrated amp and a (~$1.5K) Cambridge Audio 851N network player. The weak link here seems to be the Cambridge unit. 

I'm prepared to upgrade my streamer/DAC situation and my budget is about $4-6K. Although there are SO many options out there and it's tough to tell where I'll find the most value. My assumption is that the DAC is going to play a much larger part in sound quality than the Streamer. I play music primarily through Tidal. I don't have requirements for server storage or any other sophisticated source capabilities. 

Many of the network players come with a pre-amp which I am assuming I should rule immediately. That pre-amp would be taking a share of the overall budget. On the other hand I was thinking maybe I should buy separates. I could max out the DAC and get something good enough for the streaming. Or even continue to use the Cambridge if I really wanted. Having a beautiful screen on a good looking streamer would be nice but seems like lower priority in terms of bang for buck.

Curious to hear people's thoughts. Are there any specific units anyone would recommend as either an all in one network player or as separates? The Auralic ALTAIR G2.1 seems like the ideal all in one but it's at the very peak of my budget.

Thanks!

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I think it’s worth mentioning, but atypical. I recommend Apple TV 4K s the source. They have a tidal and quobuz app, but Apple music is in my source after years of hoping the other companies were going to better them in quality . Not to mention you can control it from any apple device. Or attach a monitor. You just need a splitter to take the audio stream out of the HDMI output. My system is all Electrocompianet, DAC, Preamp and mono blocks. Then into Maggie 1.7. It’s good to think it’s just a part of the whole system, I’ve auditioned dozens of pricier options Lumin being the top, hated using it (interface) but no real magic. Considering you can demo it easily, it’s 200 bucks out so, try with the Cambridge DAC (had that once upon a time) and see. I went through Denafrips, Topping, and half dozen more DAC’s so you’ll have to see what clicks, but Apple won’t break your budget. 

Consider the TEAC UD-701, which is an intregrated streamer and DAC.

See thread below for discussion of this model:

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/teac-ud-701-vs-nt-505-vs

 

 

At a recent Raleigh audio show (Audio Advice Live), almost all of the demo rooms were using the HiFi Rose RS150.  Even with $100k+ and $300k+ speakers.  It's 5k.

 

 

And they sell them, and they were sent demos? 

 

At a recent Raleigh audio show (Audio Advice Live), almost all of the demo rooms were using the HiFi Rose RS150.  Even with $100k+ and $300k+ speakers.  It's 5k.

   

I have a Mac mc452/ c47 and use the hifi rose 150b and think it sounds glorious. Much superior to my iPad through the built in dac in my c47.