Amp Internal Wire


Hi Gents, has anyone have any experience with upgrading amp or preamp internal signal wire? Most older equipment seems to have thin maybe sometimes poor internal wiring. In the world of OFC/OCC/Sterling and even more exotic wire available these days, any experiments done using this internally on components swapping out the cheap?

Lots of discussion about doing this with speakers, but never with components I've seen. For instance, I am thinking about replacing copper 'appliance' wire in an old Bryston with 14awg sterling from the board to the speaker binding post board.

 

Any thoughts?

rickysnit

How do we know ^those two things^ are true?

'We', not sure. I do from personal experience with interconnects and other Mundorf products. Their MCap Solder is divine :) My use case though would be from the board to the speaker binding posts, maybe I should consider their multiple conductor type twisted, make overall larger gauge and have the twisted separation - dunno..

I have used both of these conductors in my projects. The newer Mundorf wire is nice, but a tad tilted up in the presence frequencies. I preferred the solid core Neotech’s body, slight warmth and neutrality in the upper mids. I also found the bass to be more fulsome and impactful.

Rickysnit, I've done this, both the power inlet, fuse holder and internal wire to transformer, and the speaker wire from amp board to binding posts (along with upgrading binding posts), in a Perreaux PMF3150.  Also replaced the RCA inlets with KLE Pure Harmony with VH Audio 21awg silver occ wire.  All done in stages with testing in between.

For  the speaker wire, the best improvement was eliminating the binding posts.  I ran the same wire (VH Audio ofc) from amp board to binding post (which I replaced with WBT), then same wire from amp binding post to speaker binding post.  Wiring direct from the amp board to speaker binding post was a definite improvement, even after the WBT change. 

I have CSS speakers, and recently purchased the new tweeter and upgrade crossover - I soldered VH Audio 18awg UP-OCC to crossover, drilled 2 small holes in speaker and ran wires direct to the amp board (no posts in signal path), unquestionable improvement in what I perceive as 'speed' and 'resolution'.  The same wire is used internally from xover to tweeter and mid.  (Bass is handled by pair of GR Research open baffle subs).

I don't know about only changing the speaker wire internally, as I changed the binding posts at the same time, going from factory cheap steel to WBT (copper), with a small but welcome improvement.  This exercise demonstrated just how bad it is having large chunks of standard quality metal in the signal path.  You may find a slight improvement with changing just the wire, my experience is the binding posts are the biggest detriments, huge thanks to Ricevs on here for highlighting that which drove my curiosity and now much improved sound.  For your Bryston, maybe try the wiring first, then try skipping the binding posts and wire either direct or as close to the amp board outputs as possible to see if there may be benefit. 

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Yes, it all matters. Better quality transformers, foil inductors, chassis IEC, resistors, caps, rectifiers and on and on…Sorry it’s not as simple or cut and dry as you would like to have it. Seems the world of audio and electronics is full of possibilities! All good. No one person can know even a small percentage of what is out there to learn in this field. You are just realizing your limited knowledge and we all suffer from that reality if we are honest.