Added an SUT...not sure I understood this


I just added a Denon AU-320 step-up transformer in between my AT-OC9XML cart and my ARC SP-14 preamp.  I am glad that the (relatively quiet) hum that had been present before is now gone...and I mean gone...since that was what motivated me to add an SUT.

However:

I sort of expected that I would also experience a noticeable increase in gain.  Specifically, using the 40-ohm (10X) tap, I would have expected maybe a 6-8 dB increase in volume, and more with the 3 ohm tap.  I am not hearing that, and in fact am getting the opposite effect.  This means I actually have to peg the volume control if I want to achieve 95 dB levels at my listening position, something I rarely, but still occasionally, do.

Also, I removed the 22-ohm loading resistor upon connecting the SUT.  I noticed previously that a 40-ohm loading still had the cart sounding pretty bright.  But with no loading and using the 40-ohm tap, things sound natural.  I sort of expected I was going to need to add a 40-ohm resistor (at the tonearm) to achieve the same loading.

All of this confuses me; I'm happy so far with the sound yet perplexed.  Perhaps some good Samaritan here will be able to explain why I am hearing what I am hearing.  in the meantime, I'm just going to enjoy my quieter background. 

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Well, as I said, I removed the load resistor when I installed the SUT.  Thus, the SUT is driving my preamp's 47k ohm input impedance without modification.  The pre-amp was just serviced and spec'd out by ARC, so I know there's no chance its impedance or gain are other than as designed.

It sounds like everyone agrees with me on what adding the SUT should result in, both in terms of gain and tonality.  It's just that is not what is happening.  

Make sure your inputs and outputs to the SUT are not reversed! I've done this before. I've also accidentally stacked two SUTs, which actually goes backwards in gain (due to really bad loading). Double and triple check all connections. In your setup, that SUT should give you an extra 20dB of gain which is HUGE and absolutely noticeable. There's no way you should be pegging the volume unless something is seriously wrong. That line stage has 20dB of gain! That's an awful lot. You should be having the opposite problem - you should be able to hit 95dB relatively low on that volume control - like below 12 o'clock, for sure. 

@mulveling Thanks.  Clearly there is something wrong with this SUT.  There's no possibility of wiring it backwards since it has a built-in output cable and two sets of RCA jacks for inputs.

You are right about the gain on my line stage.  When playing from a digital source, my light fixtures start rattling before I reach the 10 o'clock position.

Dear @woofhaven1992  : For that cartridge you don't need to use any SUT. The SP 14 spec MC sensitivity is 0.25mv and your cartridge has an output 0.4mv, repeat you don't need any SUT and obviously not that low quality Denon that was a vintage entre level Denon line.

 

You need to read the SP 14 very carefully to make the rigth set up/gain for your SP 14 stand alone and check for every system link to avoid any hum/noise developed.

 

You are in the wrong path with a SUT, jus forgeret and focus on your whole system with that cartridge.

 

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,

R.

@rauliruegas Yes I have been using the SP14 with no SUT for some time, and the sound is great except for a touch of hum just at the level of the noise floor. I decided to fiddle with this SUT as a way of addressing that problem, which otherwise has been  persistent despite lots of attempts to address it, including having ARC work on the pre-amp twice.

You are correct that through the SUT I lose some resolution,  although I was blaming that on the crappy built-in output cable. I figured I could find a way to replace that but maybe I should, as you say, forget it.